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Are you talking about the Lions? If so, no way.
The Lions can't afford to pay Long what he'll want even if he was open to playing here.
Also the front 4 doesn't need another 1st round pick spent on it.
Te'o or Milliner all the way. If neither are there then Jonathan Banks.
Yeah. Long is not going to get elite LT money after having arguably his worst season since his rookie year. The only way he's going to get anything close to that kind of money is if he goes to a terrible team like the Chiefs. The Lions will probably have to compete with a team like the Bears for his services but i think we have a shot. Werner and Moore would most likely be the BPA and KVB and Cliff Avril will most likely be gone after this season. Jonathan Banks would be a major reach at 5. We don't need Manti and he's not worth a top 10 pick IMO. He's not Patrick Willis. He's not even Luke Kuechly.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CWEBB 16 months ago
Wanna bet on that? He's going to get paid big time money if he's not franchised.
Werner isn't Chris Long... eventhough that's what everyone wants to think . Doesn't belong in the top 5.
We have solid depth at DE so even if Avril leaves it's not as big of a need as LB or CB.
Te'o is definitely worth a top 10 pick. He had a great year after getting down to a lower playing weight and would instantly be the QB of the defense and our best LB.
I don’t doubt he will get big time offers, they will come from terrible team’s though. I don’t see him as the type of guy that would sign with a terrible team so he can get more money.
I’m not the biggest fan of Werner either, and would much rather have Moore. But considering our needs and the value of the position he play’s, he would be a much better pick than Milliner, Te’o or Bank’s IMO. TBH if Moore is gone I would like us to trade back, which has become a lot easier in the new CBA.
We have depth but none of those guys are starting material. With KVB and most likely Avril gone it’s a major need.
He’s not IMO. For a LB who doesn’t rush the passer to be worth a top 5 or top 10 pick, they have to be an elite once in a decade type prospect. Te’o is not that. The only guy recently who was that kind of prospect was Patrick Willis.
Te’o is going to be a very good MLB in the NFL, and is definitely worth a top 15 pick, but he’s not top 10 or top 5 material. He’s being massively overrated because he play’s for ND.
The Lions really need to go CB in the first and S in the second. With the way the secondary, this team won't have a shot at being competitive until it improves drastically. Lewan will do nothing to make the Lions more competitive, they can still run a pass-first offense with patchwork on the O-line but will do nothing with a secondary of mostly practice-squad players. Teo would be an OLB if the Lions took him (at least to start his career), Tulloch has four more years on his contract and the two OLBs on the Lions will be FAs this offseason.
Anyone else thinking Cunningham is on his way out?
This post was edited by UMFB 16 months ago
You're getting hung up in the "LB has to be a once in a decade type player to be drafted that high" thing.
The reason that was the case before was because of the rookie signing bonuses. You didn't want to draft a "non premium" position high because of the amount of guaranteed money you would have to pay.
With the rookie scale set it frees GMs up to do just that. They can take Te'o at #5 and not have to give a LB 25M in a signing bonus.
I understand that. I still think the value of the postion he plays does not warrant a top 10 pick unless that player is a elite prospect. IMO Manti is not that.
This post was edited by CWEBB 16 months ago
Latest CBS mock draft has Taylor Lewan at #16 overall and the third OT (behind both of Texas A&M's OTs). I'm pretty sure A&M's OTs also are juniors, so it's possible Taylor Lewan will wait to see what they do before making a final decision himself. If they decide to return for their senior years, he'd be crazy not to go this year. But if both the A&M tackles declare early, it might make sense for Lewan to wait until 2014.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson 16 months ago
At least one of the tackles will return, it could even be both.
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
In that case, TL could end up as the #1 OT taken in 2013. That would make him a potential top 5-10 pick and he'd be crazy not to leave early. But it begs the question of why the A&M tackles wouldn't look at it the same way. What makes you so certain they will return?
Jake Matthews comes from the well known football family of the Matthews(Bruce Matthews, Clay Matthews, etc.), Joeckel comes from a wealthy family and apparently wants his degree. He's a likely top 3 pick so I think he'll leave but rumor is that he's looking into insurance policies to come back. They also both have younger brothers on the football team and they want to play together. To be honest I see Joeckel as a top 3 pick this year and Matthews as a top 5 pick next year.
Got it. Thanks.
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