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How many times are you going to tell me that?
You must have missed my post about pm-ing the poster I offended and apologized to him?
If someone who actually matters (i.e. a moderator) doesn't seem to have a problem with my posts, and since then apologizing to the guy, then neither should you.
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You think Sparty's future looks brighter than Nebraska? Really?
I will have a problem with whatever I want to have a problem with. And since you keep bringing up mods, fine. Bringing them in was not my first impulse, but I'm more than willing to accommodate you. The next time I see you hurling personal insults at anyone, I will bring the mods in to handle it. If that's your thing, i.e. you want to hear directly from a mod not to act disrespectfully toward other posters, I have no problem with that. In fact, I'm beginning to think it would be a very good idea.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 16 months ago
Confirmed and appreciated.
Again (hopefully for the last time) I'm sorry you feel that way.
I have personally apologized to the guy, and have not posted anything disrespectful since.
This has nothing to do with the Catholic Church...
This post was edited by WixomSpartan 16 months ago
'Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable'
- President John F. Kennedy
Wow, how did this thread get highjacked?
UM or OSU will be a factor in every championship for the next ten years.
As far as the 90s. Wisconsin and NW won titles when they didn't have OSU on the schedule. NW especially wouldve have lost those years.
Not necessarily, but I'm confident MSU will be in the mix. Look at the last couple of seasons; multiple games decided by field goals, overtime and the last possession. There's obviously a lot of balance in the Big 10 and I see no reason why it shouldn't continue. Heck, without a 1 point loss to Nebraska and overtime loss to UM Northwestern would probably be in the Rose Bowl...
I think MSU will be in the mix too, but I just think Nebrasks will be a BIGGER threat.
Nebraska will always be a threat. MSU will, but not consistently. This year was a perfect example. As for Michigan..the question is can we get over the hump. I think Hoke is doing it right, but only time will tell if his plan to focus on the linemen, play manball, etc, pays off.
I'm sorry, but can we just ban IrishImpact now and get it over with?
Based on the last week or so, I don't think any of us are naive enough to think that this will be the last time IrishImpact insults a poster or a guest on this board. If past behavior is any indicator, he'll just get worse and worse and end up banned anyways.
Frankly, I'm sick of seeing a bunch of threads at the top of the board devolve into IrishImpact arguing with a bunch of other people and then resorting to trolling, ad hominem attacks and idiotic comments.
When I see pearls of wisdom like these, I see absolutely no reason to keep IrishImpact around:
"How do you know Frank doesn't have aids"
"Let the hate consume you. Do you agree that Hoke is the new Charlie Weis?"
"Your hate blinds you...so do your immature attraction to ''stats''."
"Again with the immature attraction to ''stats'' only. You are probably part of idiot America I speak of. Go turn on your Playstation."
"And sorry but unlike Michigan we don't plan on just laying down and dying."
"I knew ND hate runs rampant. But damn. Is it because we beat you? Our history? NBC?"
Yet something tells me you're perfectly OK with a team not being good enough to play in the conference championship game yet sliding in to a BCS Bowl by sitting home and watching the conference championship game.
well considering the BCS bowl bid takes into the season as a whole, yes i am. Hell Bama wasn't good enough to play in their conference championship game last year and played in the National title game.
Excellent point...hadn't considered the Bama scenario.
It would also hold weight if they could win one of them.
Oh reeeeaaallllyyy????... Hmmmm
I dream of a day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.
I lol'd also...
I wouldn't count on them winning this year either, but maybe with the BIG's reputation so low they can catch Stanford off guard ...
I realize that all of you have this odd fetish type dream of Michigan and Ohio State's football programs battling it out every season to determine who wins the Big Ten. That's a jizz filled thought that scopes through the minds of all buckeye and wolverine fans. But the fact of the matter is..., the time of Bo and Woody's "War" is over. It's a different time, and the situation from 69'-78' will never happen again in my lifetime, or in the current state of college athletics. 9 out of the 10 years Bo and Woody faced off it was for the Big Ten Championship. Michigan and Ohio State. That's insane. Other than the anomaly season in 71' it was between Michigan and Ohio State.
But like I said, different time, different era, different rules, different Big Ten. The strength of the conference in the 70's was arguably at it's worst, or about at as poor as it is currently. The 60's was arguably the period of time where the Big Ten conference was at it's best. There was so much parity in the 60's. You had Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Illinois, Purdue, hell even Northwestern and Indiana had solid football programs during the 60's. In the 70's you saw all of these other programs pretty much fall into mediocrity. While the only programs that seemed to have success was Ohio State and Michigan. As many of you know, back in the 70's there were no scholarship limits and essentially Michigan and Ohio State could recruit and give out as many scholarships that they wanted. Many of these scholarships were offered to all state players that were just simply offered so UofM or OSU didn't have to play against them on another Big Ten team. They were offered just to sit on the bench. The fall of all the other programs in the Big Ten contributed to OSU and Michigan's rise, the fall of Michigan State's program due to what was considered to be "the death penalty" at the time, and other instances around the Big Ten helped.
Michigan and Ohio State would make it to the Rose bowl nearly every year in the 70's, only to be completely demolished by a Pac-10 and embarrass the rest of the conference. Michigan and Ohio State weren't really that dominant in the national landscape. They blew in the rest of the nation's eyes. The rest of the big ten was completely awful in the 70's, which brings me to my next point.
Since the 1980's this rivalry has become a mirror image of it's self. Bo and Woody battled it out nearly every season to determine the champion of the conference. 9 out of 10 times. Since 1980, in 33 seasons, the traditional "Michigan and Ohio battle" has only occurred 9 times.
80's: 80', 82', 86'
90's: 90', 97', 98'
00's: 03', 06', 07'
So essentially this might happen 3 times every decade. There's no way that in the current state of college athletics that Michigan and Ohio State could "run the conference". It's a different time. Not everything is decided on recruiting rankings. If so, Michigan and Ohio State would basically win the Big Ten every single season. And recruiting "stars" don't mean much. The difference between a 3 star and a 4 star is subtle. Many recruiting experts don't know if it's the recruit that makes the program or the program that makes the recruit. Many times a recruit that would be given a 3 star at Illinois, will be given a 4-star if they commit to let's say a program like Michigan that has well known assistants and commodities that will coach that 3 star up into a star. Thus, many 3 stars get bumped up if they commit to the big time programs under big time coaches. There are scholarship limits now, and you can see the evidence all around you. Northwestern has a decent program. Who would have thought they would go to the Rose Bowl in 95? That's the results of scollie limits and good coaching. It's a different time, different era. You can't be that dominant in college football, and it's not like Michigan and Ohio State are getting world beaters either. I still see the slow "4-star" ohio recruits getting killed in bowl games. The South produces more elite athletes.
This is all without mentioning that the Big Ten added Penn State and Nebraska. Penn State no longer has JoePa to bring them down. Nebraska won't be down for long. And you cannot forget Wisconsin. 3 straight Big Ten champs. They've proven to be legitimate in my book. Since the early 90's Wisconsin's rose to the top of the Big Ten. And every season you have teams like Michigan State that might get up through the ranks. So I don't think michigan or ohio state or going to "run the conference" anytime soon. Brady Hoke has proven nothing to me to believe that he is anything special. It is fairly easy to be successful at a program like Michigan or Ohio State. I see nothing that makes me think that he's anything better or different than Lloyd Carr. 8-4 seasons aren't elite guys. That's like 7-4 back in the day. It's not bad. But not really that good either. Urban Meyer is a fantastic coach, but he's not immortal. There is nothing that shows me that Brady Hoke is a better coach than Urban Meyer. And Michigan will continue to play second fiddle to Ohio State. Nothing's changed.
No bowl for you!
** Buckeye taste like a bloomin' onion **
Get this garbage out of here.....not that I actually read the whole thing, but because I quit reading after the first paragraph. I dont have time to read a 5 page thesis laced into a diatribe. GTFO
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