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So just to make your point clear: Urban has been successful every where he has been and with every QB he has had, but he left florida because Tebow did? Is that correct? So, he sucks, it was all about Tebow and the other QB's, but his ability to succeed with every person he has ever had and continually recruit top 5 classes caused him to fake an injury so he no longer had to continue being the most dominant coach in his conference? Essentially, his players were really good, he had nothing to do with that, and he left because his good players left him despite having other really good recruiting classes?
In summary, he really sucks while continually winning with whoever is on his teams and recruiting top 5 classes consistently. Good points, all around, genius.
Mind to say what his record was with all those super awesome recruits he had during his last season at Florida?
Ok, so great coaches never have 1 subpar season? Nick Saban never had a crappy season? I mean, being the best coach in his conference every other year he's been a coach (including this year) is all in doubt because he had one subpar season. You are really hitting home runs with your logical conclusions. Honestly, your reasoning ability is just on par with the best of our time.
Nick Saban hasn't had a crappy season with all his recruits at Bama. Urban Meyer had a crappy season WITH all his recruits. Basically his recruits were talented, but he didn't exactly coach them up to their potential.
Would u be more excited with Urban Meyer as your coach and 11-0 or Brady Hoke? C'mon dude. Stop acting like Urban Meyer is John L. Smith.
"Dorsey...under pressure...throws iiiiiit. Incomplete. The Buckeyes win!" - Keith Jackson
O ok, he's coached up other peoples players to be the best in the country and his players, but he had one bad season so he sucks. Got it, you are really on fire today.
To be completely honest, Brady Hoke.
Hoke has completely revitalized Michigan as a whole, especially on defense and the offense has a ton of potential with the right QB in place.
How much room for improvement is there with OSU? The talent level never changed at OSU, and it isn't going to with Meyer at the helm.
The main difference I see between Hoke and Urban right now is Hoke is leading a down Michigan that has serious talent deficiencies to an 11-2 record and 9-3 record in his first two seasons. Add in the highly rated recruiting classes, this is a program that has a higher potential than OSU.
You can't deny OSU's 11-0 record is misleading. OSU hasn't played any good teams this season and they haven't exactly blown away the competition this season. The defense is not very good and the offense runs through Braxton Miller.
I'm not saying he sucks balls, but he isn't the god you are making him out to be. Without other coaches' players, he isn't that good of a coach.
We both played Nebraska, right? Do you realize 9-3 got Earle Bruce fired?? 9-3 is not good, bro. Even tho itll be 8-4. What youve just said is the bar is lowered and Hoke can get over it. Cool. we're looking for National Titles in Columbus. Glad to see back to back failures to win the conference inspires confidence.
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College Football Hall Of Fame member LLoyd Carr>>>>>forced out of football for being a constant rules violator Jim Tressel.
Thats not what the head to head record says. What are u basing that on? Who you like better?
Hoke, easily. I wouldn't be able to be excited to have a slime ball like Urbie Liar as the coach of Michigan.
Michigan has 42 B1G titles, how many does OSU have?
How many National titles does OSU have?
Yes, college football coaches are saints. Sorry, Urban Meyer is the exception, youre right.
Not as many as Michigan. As ive said youve won more games and academically we're not in the same galaxy, but you guys arent a top program anymore. its just the facts. In the current age you guys have won how many BCS Bowls? 1?
Ya, I mean, he's won an NC with other peoples players and won a BCS game with all of his players, but he's not good with other peoples players. And, I mean, I certainly made him out to be a "God" when I said that your point didn't hold water because he was extremely sought after as a coach.
This exchange has been really embarrassing for you. I would go back to greeting at Wal-Mart if I were you.
I'm basing it on the fact that no coach in the history of our conference has more rules violations verses a man who ran a clean program. A man that even though had a hard time beating his rival towards the end of his career, left his program with dignity. The other was forced out by the governing body of the sport for being shady thus leaving his on probation, scholarship restrictions and a bowl ban. For those reasons I choose Carr over Tressel**** any day.
Just out of curiosity, what's the head to head record for bowl bans, scholarships lost and rules violations?
I'm not sure why you are arguing with them about that. "win at all cost" is OSU's trademark mentality, of course they'll take rivalry wins and championships over a clean program.
You sound like Vanderbilt talking about Alabama. Pathetic. Im sorry Tressel got caught, but it was worth it for 9-1 and dominating the Big Ten.
+1 Thank you. This. To be fair tho, color me a wee bit skeptical that a team with kids from Detroit is full of virtue and academic stalwarts.
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I'm not sure why either. It's pointless. They have no respect for the game or it's rules. Just for fun everyone on this board should go down to that car dealership that allowed Pryor to "test drive" that SUV he was cruising around in and ask if we can test drive one of their cars out of state. If they refuse to allow some one in the general public that luxury, we just tell them that's an NCAA violation and we can get free rentals. If a Buckeye can test drive a car out of state then why can't we?
And the truth shall set you free. Congrats on all your asterisk wins.
Thank you. And congrats on your mid-major and CLEAN(even tho nothing within 100 miles of Detroit is clean)3rd best in the Big Ten team. On behalf of Urban Liar, Cheater Vest and "Ohio" we salute your embrace of runner up status.
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