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This "Michigan can't recruit like the SEC" talk is just ridiculous. Michigan currently has the 4th best ranked class in the nation and better than TEN (10) SEC schools. The coaches are doing an amazing job recruiting and maybe most of the SEC schools can learn a thing or two about how to recruit from this coaching staff.
I ain't worried about it....the stars don't mean anything. We gotta start winning Rose Bowls and Nattys as a conference to get the SWAGG back. Just win and the rest will take care of itself.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
I think Poggi isn't going anywhere. Plus the addition of Green only helps.
i commented this on another topic but if I heard correctly on the radio Poggi was in the Tuscaloosa area with his father but it was not for a visit. And the radio personel stated very clear that Poggi is still commited to Michigan and thats where he wants to go and it was not a visit. So I believe it's just hoopla and people just trying to get things started is all. Just relaying what I heard on the radio.
Caller from bama on the Bill King show this am said the same. It sounds like it's legit. Doesn't sound at all like you guys are gonna lose him to Bama. As for Biff, the comments were still bizarre. The conference as a whole has always recruited pretty well evidenced by a ton of wins in the past. Biff probably needs to take a peek at his Grey's Sports Almanac for historical reference.
Maybe Biff working on a job offer in the SEC
That's exactly what it sounds like to me. Especially with the whole "process" remark.
The guy is obviously pro BIG evidence by sending his two sons to play in the conference. Maybe he's just speaking the truth... if the BIG wants to ever reach the level of the SEC then they need to step up their recruiting. Would anyone who follows recruiting closely really disagree? And don't gimme the line of UM and OSU are both ranked in the top 5 in recruiting, because there is a huge difference between southern recruiting and every other region. Generally speaking, being rated as a high 4* or 5* recruit coming out of the south means more then the midwest or west coast.
Yea, because the southern teams aren't trying to get the northern 4* and 5* kids.
You started to make a good point.... and then you fell flat. The reason SEC recruiting > B1G recruiting is not that a 4 or 5 star recruit from the south is different than one from the west coast, northeast or midwest. The difference is that SEC teams recruit and retain more 4 and 5 star players while also convincing some to stick close by in junior colleges and wait their turn. It's a numbers game. It also doesn't help the B1G that more 4 and 5 stars athletes live in the South and West as a result of population shifts.
Nobody on this board can define the word regression.... but it sure gets used a lot.
Can't really comment on "recruiting" like the SEC unless we also discuss greyshirts, over-recruiting, junior college transfers, and the process by which less heralded recruits are selectively escorted out of the door in favor of more heralded recruits.
It's not as black and white as "recruiting like the SEC." It's...an entirely different philosophy.
yes... $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $..is it just a coincidence how the SEC has a contract playing on ESPN, and CBS which is the no.1 leader in sports. For these broadcast companies to remain on top they make sure they push for and hype up the SEC so everyone wants to go there.
Just wanted to say thank you Uncle Newt for injecting some reasoned analysis and common sense into this discussion.
I think the de-commit rumors have already been de-bunked (again) at this point, which should further support the argument that this is not Biff Poggi's twitter account. My money says there is no way that it is.
In the end, the Poggis may or may not comment on it, but Henry will be in the class. I, for one, hope they do choose to confirm that this wasn't Biff talking, so that we can all see how unreliable twitter can be as a source of real information.
I'm not expecting it though...
While historically true, I think if we're being honest the B1G has struggled in recruiting the last 5+ years. OSU and UM have had consistent top 5 finishes the last few years, but outside of those two teams, when you compare it to SEC recruiting there's no contest. Usually the SEC has 5+ teams inside the top 10 in recruiting, the B1G is lucky to have 2. MSU, PSU and Wisconsin have done great things with the talent they've gotten (usually somewhere in the 20s class ranking-wise), Northwestern as well the last couple of years, but it's not even close when you compare it to what the SEC is doing year in and year out.
That said, I don't want to be more like the SEC. But I do think they are hands-down the best recruiting (and performing) conference, and it's not even close.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by dukeluke 15 months ago
Unfortunately, that's the problem. He has to look at non-recent history to get a sense of what the Big Ten was.
The quickest way for the B1G to match the SEC is to hire good coaches that also double as excellent recruiters.
Look at Purdue when the Boilermakers had Jim Chaney as the OC who is known for being a good coach and a good recruiter. He's the one that recruited Texas hard and signed Drew Brees.
Look at Northwestern now that it has Pat Fitzgerald.
Iowa is stuck with Kirk Ferentz.
The B1G, as a whole, needs to prioritize California, Texas, and the South as recruiting pool. The midwest no longer produces the same amount of talent as it once did.
The dynamics of this country has changed. Barring another "Great Migration" of blacks in the immediate future, the South will continue to produce the most talent.
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No. Poggi has not decommitted. He will be part of the class.
biff poggi did an interview for tider insider today and it sounded great for Bama.
"After the Alabama visit, where does Poggi's recruitment stand? Is he still firmly committed to Michigan?
"I'm not saying a word about that," Coach Poggi said."
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by chefrossi 15 months ago
Michigan has a in-home tomorrow with him.
11 National Titles | 42 Conference Titles | 3 Heisman Winners | 78 All-Americans | 37 College Hall of Fame Members
Was there anymore to the interview? VH has said Biff has a strict policy of not commenting on the specifics of Henry's recruitment, and gets angry when people ask him about that. So Tider Insider basically took a 'no-comment' or even a 'f-off about this subject' and turned it into a great visit?
They also talked a lot about Poggi's role in the defense, being a full time DT against spread teams, fast but strong enough to hold up. Also discussed Poggi playing the Jack.
That's what I know so far.
That is virtually the same comment he had the all star game. Biff has been consistent.
yes, there was a lot more to the interview. biff called the trip "tremendous", said "henry had a fantastic time". said everyone henry met from CNS to the support staff where "magnificent". biff talked about CNS is the "model that everybody is striving to get to". talked about how Bama likes henry's athleticism and that Bama is focusing on recruiting more athletic dl's. there was a lot more, but you get the idea.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by chefrossi 15 months ago
Not to be that guy, but this could be a bad thing. Remember Gareon Conley? Took a visit to OSU, reiterated that he was committed to Michigan, had an in-home with Mattison, then decommitted.
So Mattison could go in with the same message/mindset that he did with Conley.
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