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derrick rose is a giant vagina. he was cleared months ago
This is still a great video and would love to see his team beat the Heat.
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He's a franchise player who didn't feel comfortable playing after a serious injury like that. I don't blame him, he's gonna come back strong and confident this season.
Wow that gave me goosebumps.
very cool video. im not a chicago fan but i would love to see them kick the tar out of the heat
Although Josh Smith will start at the 3, I anticipate mostly Drummond, Monroe, and Smith rotating between the 4 and the 5. With 96 possible minutes at those two positions, if each plays 35 minutes, then Smith only has to play 15-20 minutes at the 3 (assuming backup bigs play ~10 minutes). That leaves ~30 minutes at the 3 open to Singler, Datome, Middleton, and maybe Jerebko and KCP - all okay shooters for some spacing that we desperately need. I'm interested to see what Datome brings since he had such a good 3P%.
It will be interesting to see who makes the team. I don't think the offseason is over yet...we have too many serviceable NBA players not to make a trade. I personally don't like Brandon Jennings and I don't think Rondo would be a good fit at this point, unless we trade Monroe (which I don't want to do regardless). If Knight takes a step up, we will make the playoffs.
yeah. i want knight to take that leap. maybe billups can mentor him some. if knight can be the guy this team will be a ton better (and should make the playoffs). PG, to me, is the biggest question mark. it may all fall on knight to be the guy...
I'm not sure, I think Rondo would fit pretty nicely into this lineup and team. The big problem of course is just what you have to offer the Celtics to get him. Personally, I think anybody outside of Drummond, Monroe, and Smith are probably worth Rondo. Say Knight, a few expiring contracts, and a draft pick down the road for Rondo and 1 or 2 bad deals. That's probably worth it in my opinion because the Pistons would take a big step up in the quality of their lineup with Drummond, Monroe, Smith, KCP, and Rondo. Seriously, that's a good team. However, he certainly isn't worth breaking the team over for sure.
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No way Boston gives us Rondo without Monroe or Drummond. And the problem with the lineup you proposed is the lack of spacing. KCP is the only real outside threat, and opposing teams would just collapse the paint. Force Rondo and Smith to shoot from outside and we become offensively stagnant.
Oh yeah, I doubt Rondo is coming, but that's a scenario that wouldn't bother me. As far as the floor spacing argument, Rondo is not a good outside shooter, that's for sure. He shot .240 last season and his career numbers are pretty much the same. Billups and Knight were around .367 last year, Bynum was around .316, and Stuckey was around .302. You can certainly make an argument that Rondo would be the weakest outside shooter at the point if he came to Detroit. Not totally confident it would hold up when you break it down, but that's certainly something that should be considered.
Personally, I think Rondo's skills outweigh the potential spacing issues, but with this roster, you do have a point. However, I think Rondo brings a lot more to the table than any of those other guys and I think Detroit will use Smith, Drummond, and Monroe in more of a rotation that will address some of the spacing issues itself.
The Celts are the ones looking to tank. I'd rather roll with what we have than trade Monroe, and especially Drummond for Rondo. Would I like Rondo? Damn right I would. I'd be willing to give up a nice combo of players and expiring contracts to get him. However GM & AD are not involved in anyway. If the Celts don't like it- we just move on.
What would make sense to me:
Rondo, Gerald Wallace's albatross of a contract & Brandon Bass FOR Knight, Stuckey(expiring), Villanueva(expiring) & Jerebko.
Knight & Jerebko are good pieces for the Celts. Likely starters. Stuckey & Villanueva can still play with Boston for a year...and then they open up a lot of cap space. As for the Pistons- I don't have to even talk about Rondo. Wallace can play some minutes at SG & SF. Bass would barely see the court, but its another contract Boston wants to get out from under.
Would Danny Ainge accept the offer? I have no clue. But if he says no. I just hang up the phone & move on.
Interesting proposition - I'm not sure the Celtics take it, though. Do the Pistons try to go out and get another guy in free agency next year? I'm not sure I'm willing to cripple us financially again for so many years with the Wallace contract. It's another Charlie V, and I'm not convinced Rondo does that much for us because of the spacing issues I mentioned and also his character problems. So the question is: can we contend for a championship with Rondo, KCP, Smith, Monroe, and Drummond, with Wallace, Singler, Middleton, and Bass off the bench?
Next year? Probably not. In 2-3 years? I would say absolutely. Drummond will probably end up being one of the best centers in the league by the end of the season and within a few years, he could be the single best center in the league. Remember all the talk of Smith and Dwight Howard reuniting in Houston? You essentially would have that plus Monroe, Rondo, and whatever KCP turns out to be in a few years. That Pistons' lineup would likely be better than what the Rockets have right now, at least in my opinion. Of course, the Rockets haven't done anything yet, but they're definitely a threat to win their conference, which is probably all most fans can ask out of their franchise.
You can certainly make a case that lineup is a bad fit together, but it's not like the starting lineup plays the entire game on the floor together anyway. Usually, it's the beginning, the last few minutes of the half, and the last few minutes of the game. I just really think the added impact of Rondo is worth some spacing issues for those segments. What I expect is that by the end of the year, Smith has near equal time at the 3 and the 4, Monroe has a bunch of time at the 4 and some at the 5, and Singler, KCP, and others will absorb a ton of minutes at the 3. So the starting lineup may have spacing issues, but you're probably going to have at least 2 shooters on the floor for most of the game. At least that's what I expect.
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The big thing about this that interests me is what the Bucks will want in a deal for Jennings. Have heard a lot of conflicting stuff so far.
Pistons beat writer (Vince Goodwill) already debunked this rumor yesterday, there have been no trade discussions between the two regarding Jennings.
While this is true, you should have your best 5 players on the court in crunch time. Why would you want your starting lineup to be your worst one?
Well, personally, I don't think it would be the worst lineup on the team. Plus, the concept of floor spacing is really only a concern over a significant period of time. You assume a team can't make jumpshots, so you crowd the inside, but when you're talking crunch time, you really only need to make 1 or 2 outside shots (if that). This is just my opinion, but I don't think the "playing the percentages" defense would be as effective over say 2 minutes as opposed to 15-25 minutes, for instance. I certainly think Rondo, KCP, or Smith would be able to hit at least one or two jumpers if the team really needed it.
My main point was just that teams may be able to crowd the paint, but it's not like you're limited to just that lineup. If they start doing it, you just bring a guy off the bench and mix things up. Either way, we probably won't see this lineup anyway from the sounds of things.
This post was edited by Thomas Beindit 9 months ago
If this happens- I'll be pissed!
Too much youth to trade away, for a shoot first PG that doesn't shoot well.
Hammond showing Dumars how its done. Just like he did for all those years while he was in the Pistons front office.
Truth. All went to hell when Hammond left.
yeah thats rough. giving up on knight already for a player that doesnt have the upside that knight has... im not an expert but this trade seems like JD is just trying to win now, and he is sacrificing the future in knight...
[smh] . The only person I would miss from this deal is Khris Middleton, he had some potential. Kravtsov was getting dominated in the summer league, don't really care if he got traded. I still had hopes for Knight, but whatever.
This post was edited by Nick_Wolverines 9 months ago
I think this is a 'meh' move. Knight is the piece that may come back to haunt us, but Jennings is not the solution, unless he finds new life here, like Billups did a decade ago.
I think Billups will help him significantly. Billups used to average 17 ppg all the time too. Jennings DID average 6 assists, so he's not ALL shoot first. And remember, he was playing with Monte Ellis and zero other help.
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