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"We are stopping the RUN with more efficiency than last year". Damn, Really? I dont know what your rushing D did last year but giving up 4.08 yards a carry is not efficient..
Well, clearly that efficiency spells doom for our team.
Oh, wait, Michigan's D is only giving up 3.3 YPC AND we've played two teams currently ranked in the top 10. But it's not like that'll affect Braxton Miller or anything.
EDIT: Here's a fun stat for you. Michigan gave up barely more rushing YPC to Alabama than OSU gave up to Indiana (5.5 to 5.4).
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CMXI 18 months ago
No need to flame me. All I'm saying is that our run defense has improved from last year. That's all. Should equate to less rushing yards for Denard, but not a ton less. The point I was making - and you completely missed it - wasn't that our run D is stellar. It's that the weakness in our D (right now) is that we are giving up about 100 yards more to the pass this year vs. last year. SO - if you were going to capitalize on Ohio State, that would be the area to do it - IF Denard doesn't throw INTs. Please, re-read my post. It was all well-intended and no intent to antagonize. Just stating some facts that will likely play out on 11/24. Again, in simple terms:
UM can win IF the passing game is clicking and INTs are at a minimum. You won't beat Ohio State with the run, I don't believe.
However, IF Ohio State can hold the UM run in check, and I believe they will only run for 150 or less (total rushing yards), then it will force UM to pass to win and I don't believe Denard can win that way, as his 8 INTs would indicate.
That's all I'm saying.
This post was edited by Duplic8tor 18 months ago
The Father, The Son... well, it's the
The Holy Trinity... as I see it.
Because UM had such a hard time running the ball against Ohio last season. So clearly this post is based in reality and not wishful thinking.
Ok. I guess you'll run for 400 yards? What was that about wishful thinking?
And just to make my point, Denard threw zero INTs last year. I'm saying, if he does that again, you win. You won't run for 277 again this year, IMO.
Let's assume YOU think UM will rush for another 277 yards: Using my analysis, if Denard throws three INTs... Ohio State wins. Are you really going to deny that would be the outcome if he throws several INTs - even if you run for the SAME yardage as last year? You only won by 6 points AT HOME to a team that dropped the winning TD 3 times in the EZ.. ?? Come on.
Go re-watch the game. UM dominated the LOS on both sides of the ball. What's changed? Enlighten me.
Ohio's D is what it is at this point. Maybe teams are running less because they can chuck the ball all over the yard? There's a novel idea. Denard can throw, just not very well against good Defenses that force him to. Based on last years game, and Ohio's D this season, there's no reason to believe ya'll can put him in that position.
I'm not in the camp that UM is going to stroll into Columbus and roll Ohio. It's going to be tough. We haven't won there since 2000.
Let's see how the MSU game goes and I'll reevaluate.
Denard only struggles against teams with very good defenses. You guys would need to move up several notches just to reach mediocre. Denard is going to carve you up in Columbus this year just like he did last year in AA ... and just like Cal, UNL and IU have already done to you this year. And if all you could muster was 17 points on Sparty, you won't be putting 38 up on us. You have until November 24 to do something about that pathetic RR-like defense of yours. If you don't get it at least somewhat fixed, we will embarrass you on your own field.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson 18 months ago
And yet we lost by only 6 at your house. And we turned over the ball once.
OSU - 372
UM - 444
Total Domination? Really?
That's a difference of 72 yards. Take our turnover away and we probably have more yardage than UM. Tat isn't total domination of the LOS. not at all.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Duplic8tor 18 months ago
First off we won by 10. Second, I never said we dominated the game, we dominated the LOS. This is undeniable regardless if you have selected amnesia and choose to pretend it didn't happen. We single man blocked Hankins all game long. Enough said.
Now, moving forward, which D is likely to have a repeat performance. The one coached by Mattison or Fickle?
My reasoning is based on things that have happened. Yours is contrived from hope.
It's obvious you're worried about your 'D'...I would be too. If your 'D' does not get better, real quick....then yes, we will embarrass you on your own field. Last year's game has nothing to do with this year's game. But from what I saw last year....your skilled players played well and racked up some yards, but our D Line and O Line overpowered yours most of the game. My prediction for this year....is that OSU will move the ball pretty decently but will have to settle for field goals. Our offense will score TD's on your D and that will be the difference. Somewhere around the neighborhood of UM 42 OSU 23
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
We gave up less points to Alabama than they gave up to Indiana. 'Nuff said.
For someone the remembers all the details, the score was 40-34. That is 6 (SIX) points. Not ten.
What's more, you are fantasizing about last year's performance (UM) imagining it to be far more than it was. You didn't "dominate" anything, regardless if it took no one to block Hankins. Dominating the LOS would suggest we couldn't move the ball, which was certainly not the case. DOMINATING the LOS would suggest you scored at will, which was certainly not the case. You are dreaming.
We scored over 40 points and had over 250 yards rushing. We dominated the line of scrimmage on the offensive side of things. This thread is about your defense. Based on what i have seen this year there is no reason to believe we won't dominate your defensive line again.
You scored ... OVER .... 40 points? The SCORE was 40-34. What am I missing? Also, at what point did I say our defense wouldn't give up yards or points? I said we would likely give up LESS rushing yards than last year (277) and more passing yards than last year. The equalizer is whether Denard throws INTs or not. But read (into it) whatever you want.
And, for "DOMINATING" either side of the LOS, to have won by only 6 points... WOW. Wishful thinking for SURE.
Settle down. Sorry man but when you give up 40 points and 277 yards rushing you were dominated on that side of the ball. It's just the way it is. I didn't say our D dominated your offense on the line of scrimmage. So I don't know why you are getting so bothered by my post. Your D last year was dominated. That's just a fact.
Fitz crossed the goal line. Ten points.
Your running game was shut down, minus Miller improvisation, our running game did whatever it wanted. All you need to know is on the last drive, when Ohio had to stop us, we ran it right down your throat. UM owned the LOS. You aren't doing yourself any favors here by acting like that didn't happen, because it did.
Ya'll scored through the air and on broken plays. It was a hard fought game and Ohio brought it, doesn't change the fact that UM handled them in the trenches. Miller is a special talent and will get his regardless.
Remind me again what Herron's stat line for the game was? Because you better believe Ohio wanted to pound the rock coming into that game. They could not.
Boom Herron: 16 car, 37 yds*, 2.5 ypc (long = 7 yds), 1 TD
* Braxton Miller also ran for 100 yds, but that only lifted OSU's total to 137. Not exactly something to crow about. They kept the game close on a handful of long passing plays. Our #3 ranked passing D will make certain that doesn't happen again this year.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 18 months ago
Ohio State fans just love all the points they "should" of had, yet ignore the ones we should of have.
Go Blue and Go Titans!
We both can play that game..Remember the ball that went through the punters hands?? You got points you should not have.
Remember Fitz touchdown that was ruled not? ...robbed UM of 7 points
UM could have won by 3 scores if 2 simple things were executed correctly......you disagree??
This post was edited by wingerine66 18 months ago
Denard had a fumble in that game that I believe you created 7 points out of...and are you referring to the INT at the end of the game as your turnover?
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