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I love the big play as much as anyone, but I think this coaching staff is just fine with 10 + play drives, picking up six or seven first downs along the way. Wear down the defense---and a bruiser like Smith will be destroying linebackers in the 4th quarter.
"I pity the fool(s)"
You guys seem to forget that Rawles has 3 more years and Hayes has 4 more years. These guys will be more than good enough to fill the needs at RB for years to come. Coming out of highschool Rawles coach said he was fit the same mold as Mark Ingram only faster, (they had the same coach). Hayes was known for his speed, and if I remember correctly everyone was high on him joining the class. IMO those guys are going to be the best 1 and 2 RB combo in the BIG. UofM, in no way shape or form, NEEDS to bring in multiple RB recruits. I know they haven't picked up an "elite" recruit there in some time, (Chris Brown in 06 was top 10 on some sites ), but we will be fine with who we have. Elites will come begging for an offer once they get to see how the offense is clicking in the next few years.
I think WR and DL should be more of a priority. I am not knocking who they have signed, but at this point volume at the WR position wouldn't hurt. They guys they have are great prospects, but the elites that are possibilities in this class can make a bigger impact sooner. It looks like there is going to be a huge drop in talent after this year, but it really depends on the coaching. With that said, nothing is guaranteed. Those that have been brought in could become elite college WRs, or they could be bottom of the barrel guys. That's why I would prefer 2 more in this class. (my prefered are Treadwell and Allen)
I have the same philosophy for the DT position, they just lack bodies. Pipkins will be a monster, but who will play next to him in the next few years? Who will be the rotational guys? Those are questions that will need to be addressed sooner rather than later. (My prefered are Poggi, Hurst, and Augusta)
I agree with the staff wanting long sustained drives, but why not be able to score both ways? I really hate to use them as an example, but look at USC when Pete was there and had both Reggie and LenDale there. One punished the defense and one had the defense scared shitless every time his clears were on the field.
This post was edited by Saintlex 23 months ago
I personally think Drake Johnson will emerge as the best back in a couple years. We overlook this guy because he went to a small school and played against weak competition. I think his Tapes closely resemble Ty's.
The bucknutters seem to think were crazy that we needed ty. There saying the exact same stuff they say about there whiffs in recruiting. I swear one day they will wake up from this delusional life they live
I agree 100% love his tape
I don't think PiHi is small. They're class A with a rich football history.
I think we are just fine with who we already have in the fold and the two backs we have committed. I think Smith could be like a mike hart type and i have hopes Wyatt can be a Mike Alstott type. Even if Wyatt moves to FB or DE i think he is gonna be great. I'll be honest, im greedy i really wanted Ty in this class. Smith and him would have complemented each other very well. Ty wont be though so we are moving on. I just hope we dont reach for a RB now. Smith will be fine, i think and i know most of you all agree that we really need to focus on landing an elite WR or maybe even two. We gotta find a burner who can stretch the field opening up the underneath routes and running game. We have a great class and im very confident that coach Hoke will finish up strong!
Care to elaborate?
He has good size. Track state champ speed. Scored like 40 TD's last year. What do you disagree with?
The fact that in his film his speed is only when it's in a straight line, he doesn't move side to side well, and he doesn't run with good strength. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him be successful, but he seems destined to Special teams specialist.
Johnson and Hayes both have big upside potential. The problem with RBs in general though is that they have a high 'beta' for success no matter what their rating is. WRs and QBs are more predictable.
So you always need a few in each class.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Uncle Newt 23 months ago
I agree with you on that he is a big kid with incredible speed. I think he should have been ranked much higher. 6' a little over 200 pounds and runs a 4.3 forty, if he was in Florida, Texas, or California he would have been an easy four star prospect. IMO
If your faster than everyone else there is no need to run side to side. You can't teach speed, however you can get stronger.
I think someone said the same thing about Isaac.
I like Green (Isaac and Johnson too) best. He's fast (4.38), shifty, and breaks tackles. Magnus discounts Green only because he doesn't see the speed on film but that's BS. He was just an MVP and recieved an Opening invite I believe.
His low rating was because he didn't go to camps during track season and his competition is lower. But his speed is amazing and I believe he set state rushing records. I wonder who's records he beat.
Our O line will open huge holes and he's gone. He didn't have a huge line at Pioneer and everybody keyed off him.
This post was edited by Uncle Newt 23 months ago
Completely disagree. The reason Denard Robinson is so deadly is because he moves side to side so well and makes amazing cuts. Drake Johnson has so far shown none of this; he takes like 3 steps anytime he needs to change direction in his film. I would say change of direction is even more important than speed. Obviously I would love to be wrong, but I too think Johnson will be a special teamer where he makes one small move then gets that huge frame of his sprinting up field.
Absolutely, he looked like the only decent player they had on film. Every school they played was set on stopping Johnson and he still set records pretty impressive.
The reason Denard has great lateral movement and makes so many amazing cuts is first he is an absolute phenom of an athlete probably top five in all of college football, and second he is not very big probably about 175 pounds. Drake Johnson is over 200 thus he can be more of a punishing north and south runner.
Ty Isaac is much more sudden than Johnson. If you watch the two tapes again, I think you will notice how much more effective Isaac is at splitting defenders on cuts. While they both have that high top-end speed, Isaac reaches that speed much quicker than Johnson and it really sets him apart.
That said, I wouldn't be too surprised were Drake Johnson to develop into Michigan's best back.
Johson definetly has all the phsyical tools to be a great back, imo he will become as good as he wants to be, it will all depend on how hard he works and hw well he takes to coaching
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