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Illinois to move to the Legends?
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Why do people think Michigan and Ohio in the same division is a good idea?
It isn't. In any way, shape, or form.
I've seen fans of both teams frequently mention that a potential rematch would diminish the value of The Game. That's a tired notion based on nostalgia that fails to take into the account how much the landscape of college football has changed.
If anything, I think turning The Game into a mere spot-clincher for the B1G Championship game is demeaning/disrespectful.
The two most dominant Big Ten teams should be rewarded for their historic value. A potential rematch every year adds to that history.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Frank C 17 months ago
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I think that is fair.
However one of the benefits of adding the two new schools is opening up new recruiting grounds...and those two schools, we play...once in the next six years.
Does that make sense?
Anyway, the best part of all this may be this...the new rivalry game is rumored to be...
MSU vs. Maryland.
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet but the addition of Maryland + Rutgers suggests that we're going to a 9 game conference schedule.
Welp, now we'll play you every 20 years. That's fun...
I am so torn about this Michigan-osu thing. I do think there is something to be said for Michigan and osu playing in the B1G Championship for the right to go to the Rose Bowl. But at the same time, I'd be so pissed if we went into Columbus, beat them, and then later lost to them in the B1G championship. At the same time, beating them twice in a season would be a great feeling.
At this point, I'm leaning more towards keeping it at the end of the season and putting them in the same division. Let's be honest, the winner of The Game is going to win the B1G anyways at that point, so only playing once should be just fine.
As far as the addition of Illinois to the Legends division. They've been a cluster for the better part of 15 years. They had that random Rose Bowl sprinkled in, but I think that's the exception and not the norm. It's another win every season.
This post was edited by vcmarsh1 17 months ago
The best argument for keeping UM and OSU in different divisions is simple: BALANCE. These two schools are far and away the best historical programs in the B1G...I guess Nebraska is kind of close, but really, it's UM and OSU, always has been, always will be. Any division that has both of them, not only are you frequently going to be robbing the league of the chance to have its two best teams play for the title, but you could postentially set up a SEC West/East sort of situation where one of the divisions is so far ahead of the other that the whole thing is just stupid.
I'm really unsure why people hate the current division set up so much. Yeah the names are stupid, but the sides are as balanced as you can get, and that should be the goal.
Since they are scheduled to play each other every year, there is no difference on that matter.
And since Michigan will play Ohio every year, while they will play everybody else once every six years, the current divisional setup may make it more likely the best two teams don't meet in the conference championship. Michigan and OSU are going to have the toughest conference schedules every year.
Yes, there is a difference. If they're in the same division, then by rule only one can go to the B1GCG. There's a 0.0% chance both make it. On the other hand, if they're in separate divisions, one can go 8-0 in conference play and the other can go 7-1, and both can make it. Or one can go 7-1 and the other can go 6-2 and both can make it. Or both could be 6-2 and make it. Or any combination therein. The point is that you can lose a game or two and still win your division, particularly if one of your losses is to an out-of-division team.
Delany just said in a Q&A that the ADs would be getting together to discuss divisions. Sounds like this is fluid, especially if we end up going to 16. I also agree with the poster above that this means we are almost certainly moving to 9 conference games.
Well, the best case scenario is they simply split Rutgers and Maryland, and make each other their rivalry game.
Yep....probably makes sense to split these two and give every team in the league consistent exposure on the atlantic coast. Also, I see the conference going to 16 teams, now expanding our footprint towards the south in SEC country
This is the thing that really pisses me off about the divisions. With 6 division games and OSU every year, we will play ONE of Wisconsin, PSU, etc. That's unacceptable.
And that is exactly why expansion sucks.
If the conference gets to 16 teams, then the ONLY games that should count toward making the B1G Championship are games against the 7 division opponents. There will be such a discrepancy in the scheduling that I think it'd be impractical to hold every team to the same standard. I'm sure if it ever reaches 16, we'll DEFINITELY see a 9 game conference schedule, but even then, it would be borderline unfair to some teams who's crossover opponents were Ohio State and Wisconsin vs. some who have Indiana and Purdue. That 1 or 2 other games just needs to count towards National Ranking and not toward the B1G standings of who goes to the Shampship.
Ehh, I don't really care about the unfairness part of that. That's just part of how it works. UM/Neb/PSU/OSU will have it harder (assuming PSU recovers), but it's best for the conference to have its marquee teams play. Will it be more difficult? Obviously. But the competition is more fun IMO and it just gives those teams more games to prove themselves against top competition. I guess it's tough for me to complain about more difficult scheduling after seeing how many cupcakes everyone plays nowadays. If it turns out that one year it screws a team out of a title shot, oh well. As long as you beat the teams in your division, there's almost no shot of being shut out of the title game unless you poop the bed outside the division and lose two or more times.
We could always do less OOC games.
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