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While Nebraska and Wisconsin will have a much easier division. The recruiting will be much tougher. They are cut off from any real recruiting grounds except for Illinois and most of the recruits will want to play in the good division.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
They are stupid. They said that Hoke and Borges aren't good coaches because Hoke hasn't won anything in the past. He went undefeated in the regular season at Ball State and improved SDSU from 2-10 to 9-4.
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
That sounds like the South Park song Blame Canada. I like it.
I was just on the Red Cedar Board. There are some funny posters on that board. One Sparty fan made the comment that OSU and Michigan have been and are still afraid of MSU. And that Woody and Bo conspired against Sparty back in the 70's to "bring their program down". I live in Ohio and I don't see or have much contact with MSU fans. I have friends and family that are Michigan fans and we have a lot of fun going back and forth at one another. What's the story with Sparty followers? They seem to have some idea that they are something that they are not.
You know other than the fact that Michigan fans are smarter than us Buckeyes, you guys are good people. You understand things so well. I would not want to have any other school as our rival than Michigan. In a weird and perverted way I love you guys!!
Ya they think they are a good football program and have inferiority complex
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
MSU really just doesn't understand that even though they're the in-state rival, they'll never even be Auburn to our Bama. Our number one rival, no matter what, is and will always be OSU. As a result, every fan from both sides wants that game to always, always, always mean something. There's nothing sweeter than having the season come down to the UM-OSU game.
We love you too... er wait.. I mean.. dammit just watch the clip.
Also, watch this one all the way to the end if you haven't seen it yet. Pretty much describes all three teams perfectly.
This post was edited by Michigan Eaglet 12 months ago
1- Hoke is a great recruiter, but Dantonio has held its own and the MSU classses haven't dropped since Hoke took over (they've actually gotten better)
2- Urban recruiting out of Ohio is no different than JT. MSU never got an Ohio kid with an OSU offer from JT and won't from Urban either. So nothing's changed there
3- BOB seems like a solid recruiter as well, but am not sure MSU's lost a player yet to PSU, so hard to say on that front.
I'm not sure how you get to your last conclusion of, "the changing landscape and new coaches in the conference could have MSU taking a huge dive in the coming years that lasts for a long time." MSU will never consistently get elite recruits, but that doesn't mean they are going to somehow take a dive in the coming years.
So by splitting the teams in the middle, putting one in the East and the others in the West is now about perception?
Your already taking a dive. You lost 5 HOME games last year. Thats a lack of toughness.
That wasn't a dive. It was a return to normal.
MSU is 646-436-44 (.59325) all-time. That's an average of 7 wins out of 12. There was nothing unusually good or bad about Sparty's season last year. It was just Sparty-quo.
Hopefully Nebraska fires Bo after this season. I would hate to see him coast almost every year to the B1GCG. It would be really cool to see Scott Frost get that job.
There’s probably like a 1% chance of this happening but I really hope OU and KU are the next and hopefully last additions to this conference.
This post was edited by CWEBB 12 months ago
thanks michigan eaglet!
funny stuff (the guy wearing all the colors was awesome) tough to stereotype all fanbases in a couple seconds each, but he nailed it!
8-5 not that much better than 7-6.
Last year certaintly wasn't ideal, but to me, taking a dive is 4-8, 5-7 type seasons..
If taking a dive for MSU is now relegated to 7-6, that shows how far the program has come under Dantonio
All things considered, it is much better. But you wouldnt understand. Briefly, All losses were on the road. 3 of which were to undefeated teams and the 2 others were pretty damn good teams. It really wasn't a comparison against but more of a state of the union address of Sparty football..Your coach said it best last year "we are laying in the weeds". Have a nice nap..Later
BTW...You suck at trolling....later
8-5 is pretty good considering we had a team full of mac level players as seniors and juniors and players who were recruited for a rich rod offense. also, we had one of the hardest schedules in the country with our best player injured the second half of the season and countess out for the season on top of fitz getiing injured. UM is very young and the talented players are Freshmen and Soph. when hoke gets his classes in, sparty will be lucky to even make the UM vs msu game competitive; should be a blowout every year
If you look at common opponents, MSU had a very large advantage of schedule:
We both lose to OSU, Neb, and ND. All at home for MSU and all road games for UM.
UM beat NW at home....Sparty loses to NW at home
UM beat Iowa at home..Sparty loses to Iowa at home
We both take care of Minny on the road.
So despite a huge home field advantage against common opponents they still fell 2 games behind.
This is where CopePapi comes back with the narrow losses and UMs "Hail Mary" excuses.
UM, even through the RR era, always had top 25 classes and multiple top 10 classes. What do you mean by MAC players?
Also, every team has injuries.. MSU lost 2 starting OL before conference play.
ust because Hoke's recruiting well, doesn't mean the MSU game is going to be a blowout.. Look back to even the Carr days (when MSU was very average under Bobby W and JLS)
From 2000 to 2007 (pre RR) UM won more games 7-1, but only two of those wins were by more than 14 points and in total, five of the eight games were by 8 points or less. And MSU's talent is way better than it was back then. So even when the coaching/talent levels were hugely in UM's favor, they rarely blew MSU out.
I expect the MSU/UM game to be a home field game for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited by BigPapi 12 months ago
UM's schedule was much harder than MSU's this past season overall.
It was unsuccessful for MSU as I'm sure it was unsuccessful for UM. Sometimes teams have easy schedules and their record is better than they probably are (MSU 2010, UM 2011) and sometimes the schedule makes teams look worst than teams are (UM 2012).
MSU did have a ton of close losses, but also a ton of close wins. Could they have been 9-3 or better? Sure, but players make players and ours didn't. Nothing to do now but learn from that and try to turn those close Ls into close Ws this year.
UM had a couple close losses (ND, OSU- though they didn't cross the 50 in the 2H, but scoreboard wise it was still close), and a couple close wins, HM over NW, last second FG to beat MSU.
UM was probably a little bit better than MSU last year, but both teams were way behind the elite in CFB
Water is wet, grass is green,2+2 is four. Anything else ?
You went 3-5 in the B10 with home losses to NW (5-3) and Iowa (2-6). We went 6-2 with road losses to OSU (8-0) and UNL (7-1). And unlike you, we beat both NW and Iowa. I'd call that a pretty significant difference.
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