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Considering that two of our losses came to the two teams that'll probably be playing in the NC, I'm not feeling too bad about it. We'll cut our teeth with Top-10 teams, you can keep having close shaves with the UABs of the world.
I agree the teams we lost to were better than UM this year...you can't argue otherwise.
But once you are arguing theoreticals (like, who are the best two teams in the country, should play for the championship), SOS matters. Ironically, if you believe the experts, Bama might be ahead of an undefeated OSU team...that again shows SOS matters.
ND and the SEC champ will get to settle the rest on the field.
Ask any Ohio State fan, and he or she will tell you that the Buckeyes deserve to be in a bowl game this year...
Reality is that the SEC champion is practically guaranteed to get into the title game now anyway. I don't like it, but it's how that conference is viewed - the winner deserves to be in the MNC because they keep winning them. And frankly, I think OSU fans know which team is to blame for starting that pattern.
Well, clearly Michigan is to blame for not winning The Game in 2006 and allowing OSU to go get curbstomped by Florida. I mean, we're the only team to ever beat Tebow in a bowl game...
Why brag about your SOS if you lost to all of those good teams? LOL.
That's because we played a down Miami FL team as our marquee matchup. Can't fault us there as we scheduled them after their first national championship. SOS is absolutely important, but what can you do when we're both in a weak B10 and you're marquee matchup is no longer marquee? These games are scheduled years in advance. Playing an 8-4 ND team and SDSU is nothing to brag about.
How in jeopardy is the Notre Dame game in the future? Looking at future schedules that have been posted, a ND-UM game is only listed for 2013 and 2014, and then a TBA after 2020-2030.
OOC games are always just hit and miss. And Michigan was able to hit on having Alabama and ND on the schedule when they both had great years, whereas Ohio State scheduled Cal when they were decent (and pumping out some nice recruiting classes) and UCF was added when they were a borderline top 25 recently.
Next year UM plays ND, @Uconn, The Akron Terry Bowdens , and Central Michigan, which other than ND doesn't look very frightening.
2014 has another matchup with Appalachian State.
2015 is interesting: @Utah, UNLV, BYU, and Oregon State. All those teams have been solid lately. Not top 10 teams. But definitely winning records. With the 4 team playoff being in place by then, that schedule could really help boost a team into the conversation.
Michigan needs to add a couple more home/home match ups and hopefully the Notre Dame game is able to continue. Right now they only have one scheduled with Utah and Arkansas. tOSU has Va Tech, Oklahoma, North Carolina, TCU, Oregon, Boston College, and Texas, and they had Vandy and Georgia but those got cancelled.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JStan12 17 months ago
This is a great point...how many other teams would be undefeated with Ohio's schedule this year.....Oregon, ND, Bama, Georgia, LSU and on and on
I agree with bucknuts, you scheduled some games with OOC teams when they were outperforming at that time. That is commendable. But what really counts is the caliber of team you actually play, not what they were when you scheduled them, which is no ones fault, its just the way it is. I would also like a cream puff schedule to go undefeated, because being undefeated always trumps having any loses...but if its a comparison on who gets a final playoff spot, then the SOS will come back to bite you.
...says Kent State.
You are absolutely right
We helped your strength of schedule. You helped our winning percentage and recruiting. Fair trade haha. Thanks, Ann.
"Dorsey...under pressure...throws iiiiiit. Incomplete. The Buckeyes win!" - Keith Jackson
All you guys did was bring up our weak schedule last year being the only reason we had the season we did. Funny how you cant see that you guys benefitted greatly from your piss poor schedule this year. Swap our schedules this year and your 10-2 at best sucknutter. Hypocrites
not a great thing to quote when you lose all 4
True, but how many of those would OSU have lost? I would argue 2 at least, as road games. But we will never know.
Michigan will have a bounce back year next year assuming Borges stops being a dumba**. Dominant defense loaded with depth, easy schedule(toughest road games at MSU at Northwestern All at home ND, OSU, Nebraska), Playmaker/potential difference maker with Gardner at quarterback. They could make a run next year.
Im hoping Michigan gets matched up with Texas&Am or Georgia in that capital one bowl, would be a another good test for this team as we head into next year.
This post was edited by TheDudeAbides21 17 months ago
I think he's expecting the Michigan defense to be markedly improved next year which should also be helped by a favorable schedule.
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Well tOSU shouldn't lose to tOSU, though they had a decent year and tend to play to their competition, so who knows...
Of the 4 games you're referring to: they lose to Alabama no doubt, even if it were a home game. Notre Dame I see as a 50/50 game. On the road I'd give ND the edge though. But tOSU would match up with ND better than most teams and I think it would be very interesting. Then they beat Michigan, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Penn St this year. So you say two at least, but looking at what actually happened this season I say two at most.
But it's completely irrelevant and I don't see why it's an argument point for either side. Every Saturday isn't played in a vacuum. Teams face each other at favorable times or against hot streaks, weather, injuries etc. Even common opponents aren't comparable for the most part.
Huh? What? Their 12 in the country in total defense (Number 1 in the country in pass defense) ,20th in Scoring, this season and return everybody worth a sh*t on that defense. I expect Michigan will see a rise much like the basketball team did this season. Mattison has been making miracles with below Michigan level talent by our standards... and although we lose great leadership(Kovacs) just like we did with Novak and Douglass in basketball... we are replacing those guys with better talent at every level of the defense. Michigan will have a stellar defense next year
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TheDudeAbides21 17 months ago
Please everyone stop making prognostications about us making a run next year....until we figure out what the OL and RB positions will look like, and if they can even contribute, then all bets are off. Theres a chance those positions will be at best equal in production to this year, which would be unacceptable and not good enough.
I'll make whatever prognostications I want, if you don't like it don't read it.
I hope so for your sake. When you're 8-4 you don't have a dominant anything.
Often times you dont know your about to read garbage until you actually read it
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