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Toughest SOS of all time .... According to them but that's bs also and by all time I'm sure they counted gms from 1880 etc... So unless your talking from 1912 till now it's got no chance.
Then on top of that depends on how their formula works to determine SOS .
Yes rules change but from 1912 till now there hasn't been any major rule changes just some tweaks. If you knew how the gm was played in 1905 for example it absolutely was totally different gm that just is not football.
BTW Ohio St owns the lead in Basketball over mich and when u talk all time I would put that in category's also.
Preshot clock era was a totally different gm when ppl sat on the ball all day with a lead.etc...
Still trying to figure out what your arguing about..the game play in the 1800's. Your grasping at straws. FACT....as of right now this very morning MICHIGAN not goblio owns the overall record.
Good day sir.
Unlike you, that site has a great reputation of having correct information and unless you have any evidence on the contrary, I will take their word over yours. And yes they are including games from the 1880s, all-time means ALL-TIME. Not half the time, or some of the time, but ALL-TIME
There have been a lot of major rule changes, like scholarship reductions, changes in ways you can tackle, and lots of other things.
And what does basketball have to do with anything with football? We own the lead in hockey, big deal.
Either come at with me with facts, or walk away. You are just embarrassing yourself right now.
Go Blue and Go Titans!
I have facts and have posted them many times records before 1912 are totally meaningless and Ohio st had lots of wins back then but it wasn't the same gm they mean nothing. U ppl boast of a record that your up a bunch of gms because in your great, great, great grandfathers era they were a solid rugby/cfl style team
Without that rugby/cfl style football we wouldn't have the game we have today. Things evolve and get better. Either respect the history of the game or GTFO.
You need to brush up on your football history. Here, let me help you:
1969-1978 (Bo v. Woody): UM 5-4-1
1988-2000 (Cooper years): UM 10-2-1
1969-2011 (since Bo): UM 21-20-2 (a)
All-time: UM 58-44-6 (a)
In fact, out of the 13 decades we have played each other, OSU has won only 3 (one being the cheating decade of the Vest):
1890-1899: UM 1-0
1900-1909: UM 9-0-1
1910-1919: UM 3-1-1
1920-1929: UM 6-4
1930-1939: TIE 5-5
1940-1949: UM 6-2-2
1950-1959: TIE 5-5
1960-1969: OSU 7-3
1970-1979: OSU 5-4-1
1980-1989: UM 6-4
1990-1999: UM 7-2-1
2000-2009: OSU 8-2
2010-2011: TIE 1-1 (a)
(a) Includes 2010 game vacated by OSU.
Care to explain why they mean nothing?
Do you think 100 years from now, people will say what you just said? That these games mean nothing?
The way i've ALWAYS looked at it is a game is a game, the time period it was played in is irrelevant.
This post was edited by Rabid 22 months ago
Did I say anything about that? No I said per 1912 ain't football everything u post I already know about no need to brush up on it
Seeing as how both schools recognize the games prior then I think most of us will do the same.
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
Those gms are irrelevant my thread about Cornell proves my point the all time record don't mean jack it's all about what's happening right now.
I'm just letting u know that the all time record u thump your chest about means nothing.
When cooper was our coach things sucked but right now the future looks bright for both teams.
We don't care about gms with no forward passes etc.... I could list all the major rule differences but you guys no what it is.
Texas is more impressive to me than anyone .their body of work from 1912 is the most consistent
Ok, then what's happening now is we won the last game, what's your point?
They are not "irrelevant".
Just because YOUR school absolutely SUCKED during that time, doesn't mean that time doesn't matter.
Without those games, football would have never gotten to where it was today and we would all be discussing some sport like soccer or something.
Either all games count, or none of them do. There is a reason we keep score, and it's not for funzies.
Why did they call it football then?
Sorry, but if we're throwing out eras we need to start with the Cheating Decade of the Vest. It's pretty interesting that it's the only stretch Ohio really ever dominated Michigan. Of course, the reason is obvious. Tressel cheated. He was violating NCAA rules before he ever stepped foot on OSU's campus and brought his shady practices with him when he took over for Cooper (2-10-1) in Columbus.
Clarett. Smith. The Tattgate Crew. Bobby D. The entire Tressel era should have been wiped from the books by the NCAA. So if we are going to consider excluding games before 1912 simply because Ohio played football like a bunch of girly men back then, we first need to exclude the Cheating Decade of the Vest.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 22 months ago
Question is to vague. Does Michigan have a better overall program than Princeton and Yale. Absolutely. The head to head matter is another question.
Besides these are not the same situation as Ohio State. This rivalry has continued to play from the beginning of football unti now. We can compare Michigan and Ohio State throughout the history of both Universities.
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