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My top 5 would be this.
Although I wouldn’t put him in my top 5, Dri Archer is a guy who I think should get a lot more attention than he does. The guy is amazing. If he doesn’t leave for the NFL this year, then he should definitely be one of the frontrunner's for the award next year.
I agree with the OP.
1. Johnny Manziel
2. Marquis Lee
3. Tavon Austin
1. Marqise Lee
2. Johnny Manziel
5. DENARD AND DEVIN AND EVERY MICHIGAN PLAYER
Honestly this is the first year where someone doesn't stand out to me. Manti Teo (spelling) is a good story, but I don't want a defender to win it. I guess manziel.......
I'm shocked no one mentioned Kenjon Barner he gets my vote
Oh I can't believe I forgot him. He'd be #3 for me though because he didn't show up in the some games for Oregon.
Flip a coin. I don't think any of these guys has been exceptional. Whoever wins, I will be 'meh' about it.
the award typically goes to the best player on the best team in the country. t'eo should at least be on the list. lee won 7 games this year, austin not much better. if they were on a team like notre dame or alabama, different story.
Agreed. That is why Manziell will probably win. T'eo is defensive...tough to win enough votes.
Tough for a freshman to win enough votes as well.
I would have no problem with a defender winning the award. Suh should have won in 2010. My problem with Te’o is that he’s not the best college football player in the nation. He’s a great guy, a great leader, and will go down as a great college LB, and will probably have a nice NFL career. But he’s not the best player in the country. Was he better than Luke Kuechly was last year? No. Was he better than Patrick Willis was at Ole Miss? No. Suh actually had a legit argument because was by far the best player in the nation and one of the most dominating defensive player’s in college football history.
If Clowney has a Suh like year at USCe next year he should have a chance to win the award.
That’s dumb though IMO. The award should go to the best college football player in the nation, not the best player on the best team (I’m not even sure Te’o is that, I would take Tuitt, and Nix over him IMO).
That's not all what the Heisman is all about. It's about character and other things also. There's a definition somewhere. +1 for anyone who can find it.
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I understand the mission statement “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity."
Character and integrity play role in giving out the award, but a minor one. How can some quantify integrity and character any way’s? It mean’s so many different things to different people. Te’o is a great guy, and a great leader but I don’t believe he’s the best player or the most “outstanding player” in the nation.
At the end of the day though the award is subjective. If I was a voter it would go to the guy would I though was the best player in the nation. Integrity wouldn’t play a role because how can you quantify that? Cam Newton got kicked out of UF, for cheating and stealing laptops but at Auburn the guy was mentoring the local youth, and helping out in the community. Should I just overlook one aspect of his character for the other? Or should I just not use it for consideration.
All I'm saying is Te'o should atleast be in the discussion
@IrishImpact- I agree. Te'o should absolutely be in the convo and he will be in New York. Seven INT's for a middle linebacker is unheard of. The Heisman doesn't go to the best player in the nation, it goes to the best player on the best team and that's why Te'o is in the Heisman mix.
Best player on the best team?
Baylor was 9-3 at the time Robert Griffin III won last year.
Its a combination of those two areas. Look at 99% of the winners. The best player on the best team doesn't mean you have to be undeafeted. RG3 was a no brainer.
How was RG3 a no-brainer? In fact, wasn't last year's Heisman race one of the closest voting's in awhile?
RG3 got 405 first place votes while Luck got 200 or something. RG3's stats were absolutely outrageous. Wasn't close to me
I just feel bad for Andrew Luck. He had a stellar senior season, but he barely missed out on the Heisman twice - and the second time, I think he was largely a victim of the expectations he had created with his junior season.
That being said, I think it's between JFF and Lee. Austin, Te'o, Klein, and Barner deserve to be in the conversation, but Lee has just been so good and JFF has had some of the most memorable moments all year.
I'm not sure how the points work, but RGIII had 1600ish while Luck had 1400ish
2009 was closer. Mark Ingram 1,304 points while Toby Gerhart 1,286
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