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Really? You BARELY won last year, over a team that was the worst OSU team since 1887..... Wow, congrats!! beat on your chest some more...you won by a few points, and now you are KICKING ASS!! haha....that's funny.....don't be surprised when OSU fans come back at ya if they win this year....y'all act like you've dominated them, might wanna look at the last 11 years instead of just last years game....
You guys were bragging the 3 years before that when you were beating the worst Michigan teams in Michigan history...
Whoever wins the last game has bragging rights for a year, deal with it.
When I look back on the Tressel era, here's what I see when I exclude the Rich Rod years:
Games in Ann Arbor:
- 2001. Ohio won by 6 points. 26-20.
- 2003. Michigan won by 14 points. 35-21.
- 2005. Ohio won by 4. 25-21.
- 2007. Ohio won by 11. 14-3.
2 of Ohio's 3 wins with Tressel as HC (against Carr) was by less than a touchdown.
Games in Columbus:
- 2002 Ohio won by 5 points. 14-9.
- 2004. Ohio won by 16 points. 37-21.
- 2006. Ohio won by 3 points. 42-39.
2 of Michigan 3 losses with Carr as HC (against Tressel) was by less than a touchdown.
In other words, Tressel won a number of close games against Michigan. A bounce of the ball in those games and the results could've been significantly different.
Who's to say that Michigan won't fare much better in close games under Hoke/Mattison/Borges?
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we wont be surprised considering the fact that you guys been talking smack the last 8 months even though you guys lost. whether you win or lose you guys are always trash talking
Soooooo, by your comparing ONLY L. Carr years against tOSU, does that mean last years Buckeye team under Fickell should be as easily discarded nas the Rich Rod years? You failed to list the losses under Rich Rod, which weren't as close as you wanted to post....Here's one difference, we only had one year that will be a blip on the screen, and you barely won that game against a freshman QB that had no idea how to play QB....I hope Hoke does bring you guys back to the Bo days, I prefer "The Game" being for all the marbles....I'm not among the Buckeye fans that think we will go undefeated this year, although I do believe 10 wins are doable....I will take 4 losses as long as we win the last one of the year....next year, team could be special... will have a lot of talent back and some more freshman that are the types that will fill roles needed that we don't have now...
also, Tressel LOVED to shut down any offense we may have if we had a lead.....drove me crazy...almost cost us several games over the years....he relied on his defense way too much to hold leads. I believe you teach your players to try to score every time they have the ball...it's up to the other team to stop you....when 2nd string is in, they deserve to try to score too....they don't practice to go in and sit on the ball....
So, in short, many of our close games were due to Tressel loving to punt and play defense with a lead....
Why was the team the worst since 1887, well because you got caught cheating. Additionally, you didnt have the same team at the beginning of the season as you did towards the end, because all of your suspended players were playing. Your record last year was not a reflection of the un-suspended roster you had when we played you.
+1 for you from an unusual source. Perhaps I'm in the vast minority of Buckeye opinion, but I would much rather see a Hoke v Tress battle in Nov. Nothing against the new regime but I tend to enjoy this game for what it is at its root...two teams, two coaches, two
Fan bases who get it.
The above comment perfectly illustrates why I love our rivalry. The perfect combination of hatred and respect. Good luck this year and we'll see you for the annual meeting of the greatest game in CFB!
he's a sparty fan
- First, I discarded the Rich Rod years because that was not Michigan football.
If you want to discount the single year under Fickell, then do so. I would not object to that.
- Second, Tressel's conservatism on offense with a lead does not adequately explain why the Michigan-Ohio games were consistently close. That you would even suggest it is insulting to those that watched the games. Only the 2001 game fits your disappointingly shallow explanation. Not even 2007 qualifies (because of the inclement weather).
I've been accused of plenty, but that takes the cake. I only root for them when they play the domers.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by NuclearBuckeye 23 months ago
i'm not saying your a sparty fan. the person you replied to thelbleedgreen is a sparty fan not a wolverine. you thought he was a wolverine fan
shoulda woulda coulda
We are college football
How many BCS wins does tOSU have and how many do the rest of the teams in the B1G have? Now tack Urban Meyers resume on to that and our recent recruiting classes compared to the rest of the B1G. Now what were you ranting about again?
And where is Urban going after Braxton leaves? NFL? Bc i sure as heck hope you dont think a different college. I wouldnt put it past you though after reading this
This post was edited by SonnyD 23 months ago
In response to nc buck
Horrible argument for your OC. Okie State had the 4th worst defense in college last year. Torching them is not impressive. Your OC hire is a total stretch and Werriner is not that great of an oline coach, see ND's rushing yardage. And yes your DC was a stretch too, besides Clemson, what ACC offense is in the top 25 in scoring? Pretty easy to have a good D when no one in the conference can put points on the board. But please go on acting like these hires are top notch.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MichaelHardenII 23 months ago
He left Florida for a different college.
I hate how when arguments break out between our fanbases, it turns into a pissing match.
Well, let's start with Urban. While he did have some good years with Tebow, you forget the team that Urban assembled around Tebow and the defensive talent. Also, Urban won at Bowling Green and Utah, going undefeated and was the original BCS buster. Urban has been recruiting arguably the best talent in the B1G in 2012 and 2013 (remember, I said arguably not definitively). I think the road back for Ohio State is a lot shorter under Urban than most in the conference are willing to admit.
I also think you are underestimating the effect the NCAA investigation, Tressel being fired, Freshman QB, and the player suspensions had on the team. This years squad will have none of those distractions and Braxton will be a year older and wiser.
As for you hoping Meyer fails miserably, his track record suggest that isn't going to happen.
Urban has people scared!
This post was edited by silverbullets85 23 months ago
Meh. Nobody is scared of Urban. With that said I hope everybody and their mothers kick the ever living shit out of MSU this year. Somehow after 2 good years(yes MSU fans 2 not 4 good years) they think they belong in the conversation as a good football program. Dantonio and his band of douchebags(MSU fans included) need to be knocked back down to where they belong.
Haha!!!! Whatever helps you sleep man
They will be starting week 5. Bet the house on it
That's the best you can come up with? Cool come back bro.
Well you've just had 1....
GTFO. Michigan is a historically elite program. A blue blood. We belong in the conversation of good football programs.
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