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I think there are many factors to consider, and when I say all this I admit there may be slight homerism, but ill do my best to be unbiased:
1) early part of the season we were adjusting to a new system. Caused us to look pedestrian in many games, especially early in the season. And that goes for both sides of the ball.
2) by end of season we looked much better. Our schedule was not something the players control. They play. That's all they can do. The penn state and wisconsin games were both on the road. Frankly, we dominated penn state. Wasn't as close as the final score as they scored two touchdowns in garbage time.
3) it takes two thing to be undefeated: you must be a very good team, and you must have some luck. Without luck, every team in the country loses at least one game. Show me one undefeated team in history without any lucky close games. Ill wait....
4) we get knocked for barely winning games, but truth is that the landscape of college football is changing. Mid level teams are getting good talent and learning how to develop them. The big difference between a team likenohio state and a team like UCF is depth. Their starting lineup in not a roll over and get beat type of team. I personally do not expect to see teams winning OOC games by an average of 50 anymore. At least not all of them. As many posters have stated, we were not the only team this year to "barely" beat many teams. Very good teams find ways to win. To me, knowing how to finish is actually a very tough quality to keep all season and the bucks were one of the best teams in the country and knowing how to finish this season. That is coaching. Period.
All of this to say, I do believe we are a top 5 team this year. Do we beat bama? Maybe, maybe not. We can each have our opinions, but we will all truly never know. I have seen Meyer coach his teams up throughout the years, not just this buckeye team. The man simply is good at game planning. Do we beat Oregon, Notre Dame, Florida, LSU, KSU? Maybe not ten out of ten times. But we could beat any of those teams sometimes. Our trench play was as good as any in the country. Later in the season, our O line and D line were dominant.
Good thread and a lot of great views on this topic
This post was edited by foubazzi 16 months ago
..... I stole your middle picture, just thought you should know......
I dream of a day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.
I think the expectations for Michigan for this year was down for many reasons. I think average prediction was 9-3, so 8-4 was a slight disappointment. Not fall-flat-on-your-face, but definitely not meeting the bar.
Tell me...what are the Buckeyes expectations for next year?
Most of my friends in Columbus think anything less than a perfect season is a disappointment...and these are Buckeye fans. That is simple reality.
Flat on your face, with those kind of expectations, is probably anything more than 2 losses.
Even my wife thinks it's hot!!!!
You got me thinking, I might my wife's opinion. Prolly get another "eww" out of her.
Urban 2 Hoke 0
Don't like this thread, don't open it up and read it then.
This is an MICHIGAN board, we aren't exactly going to be catering towards OSU fans.
Go Blue and Go Titans!
IMO, we should be ranked in the 26 to 21 range
ECU grad, tOSU fan for life. Father since 1/12/13.
Your average prediction was 2 losses or less from what i saw.
If Roby returns there is an excellent shot to run the table again when you factor in schedule, scheme familiarity etc. No more than 1 loss during the season is my prediction. Then it depends on Bowl match up
Stop whining I just wrote my opinion. I like the thread
This post was edited by Diegobuck 16 months ago
Sort of like the Wolverines this year...
Most expected us to go 8-4 or 9-3, so not really.
I would agree they are not that good.....but that begs the next question....they were undefeated, including taking us to the woodshed, so how good were we, and what are our expectations?
This post was edited by myodes386511108 16 months ago
Generosity = By watering others you will water yourself !!
You beat us by 5 points in Columbus. If we had swapped scbedules, we would be 12-0 and you would be 8-4. You're blind if you can't see that.
I'm a little late to the party, but I'd put OSU near the top 10, probably around 12 or 13. They're the best in the B1G, but I can pick a handful of teams that would beat them (Bama, LSU, Geogia, Florida, Oregon, KState, Stanford, A&M) and some that could be toss ups (USCe, Oklahoma, ND, Clemson, FSU).
Sorry i don't see it, i just dont think anyone in the big ten was very good, including osu or michigan.....
Yeap, still no bowl for you...
You do realize that is a tired comment right? I mean the whole bowl thing is only relevant to those who have not beat us since they can not say they beat us. Kind of old and unoriginal. Cute though if that is all you've got.
would actually love to hear clint respond to this one...
And we would love to get that hack Biddle on a free board to respond to his article on the Big Ten coaches stock report.
Staff writers are going to pander to their fan base. If you have a problem with it, mosey on back to Bucknuts.
And OSU wasn't all that this year. Neither was Michigan. The rest of this conversation is a waste of time.
She said "Eww"
Why haven't we banned this clown?
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