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...allow these clowns to attach the Site's brand to this garbage. Looks like something from a homerific fan blog, not a respected unbiased recruiting site
Either this website doesn't exist or is not currently available.
Dymonte Thomas #9
It's simple. OSU commits move up. UM commits move down. They have to sell this to their subscribers, so they pander to their audience. It's biased and hilarious.
How is that Jacob commit going to ND still in top 12. The whole list doesn't make sense.
I could see Conley around 7-10, but 4th. Come on
This post was edited by Michmania 16 months ago
No different than SpartanRag. They cater to their lunatic subscribers.
Can't imagine even their subscribers place much value on it. Given how wildly apparent its inaccuracy and bias is.
I think you may be giving their subscribers too much credit.....they are, after all............their subscribers.
It is basically how they ran that list for years...nothing has changed.
I'm sorry, but seeing Steve Helwagen explain the rationale here makes me not want to ever give money to 247. If the guys who made this list are getting paid for this "analysis," I should be getting paid just as much. Here are some of the gems:
"Burrows, 2nd to 6th, not a huge drop but a small one. I watched them play 2 games on TV and never saw or heard his name called. My assumption is the other team knew his rep and like Shawn Springs years ago they never tested him."
Oh, you watched two games and based your entire re-evaluation on that? Brilliant!
"Thompson 13th to 18th, I can't say anything to justify this other than, like Burrows, I watched 2 games on TV and really did not notice him. I think he had 3 tackles in the state title game. Probably was just doing his job."
See my previous comment.
"Kilgore, 39th to 19th, and he only played 4 games. My guess is Mark heard from a college or HS coach how he has a huge upside and moved him on that basis."
Um, what? So a coach's word is worth more than any actual evaluation?
"McCray, 15th to 20th, honestly can't say. I think he had a good year."
Oooh, I know! Could it have to do with where he committed to college?
Seriously, what a joke of a list.
Dave Biddle is an idiot. "I know for a fact Trubisky would've came to OSU if he had a commitable offer."
This post was edited by Todd Worly 16 months ago
11 National Titles | 42 Conference Titles | 3 Heisman Winners | 78 All-Americans | 37 College Hall of Fame Members
The sad thing is that at every program in the country, there's some poor sod of a GA, intern or support staffer who has to monitor all the recruiting websites and take note of such stuff.
Bucknuts bring in a lot of money for 247 thats why.
Here is last year's. Kind of too early to really tell, but UM did have Bolden, Wilson, and Williams all play good minutes.
With the high school season complete, we update our list of Ohios top football prospects. It appears the entire top 50 will sign with BCS conference schools. Check it out.
They have to record this? Why?
I just looked through that and realized these kids really don't have that good of grades. I think the top ACT score was a 27.
And they wonder why people laugh at everything else they put out. Hot garbage.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 16 months ago
They don't have to record it, but they monitor what the sites say because information on recruits is often dodgy and contradictory, so you just want to know what is being said about the kids in case it helps you down the road in how to evaluate/recruit a kid. It's like how detectives try to record every detail at a crime scene and in witness statements just in case something comes up that helps them to connect the dots. 99% of it turns out to be useless, but you look for that 1%.
Kalis at #11? please.
I would have had Kalis and Adolphus tied at 1 last year.
Bucknuts (Kurelic and Co.) does this every year. They move up the players committed to play for OSU and down the ones committed to UM and other schools. The kicker is if you compare this list against the rankings put out by 247 for the State of Ohio the two are not even close.
247 Rankings - Top 10 for State of Ohio
1. Cam Burrows (OSU) ... BN "final update" rank: 6
2. Jalin Marshall (OSU) ... BN "final update" rank: 1
3. Dymonte Thomas (UM) ... BN "final update" rank: 9
4. Mitch Trubisky (UNC) ... BN "final update" rank: 8
5. Taco Charlton (UM) ... BN "final update" rank: 15
6. Evan Lisle (OSU) ... BN "final update" rank: 3
7. Malik Zaire (ND) ... BN "final update" rank: 7
8. Ben Gedeon (UM) ... BN "final update" rank: 17
9. Mike McCray (UM) ... BN "final update" rank: 20
10. Billy Price (OSU) ... BN "final update" rank: 2
Totally makes sense.
Hmmm so McCray fell 11 spots, Gedeon fell 9 spots, Charlton fell 10 spots and Thomas fell 6 spots. Seems about right, considering all the gems that Urbs has picked up.
I think they are trying to say is that the people they work with at 247 have no idea what they are doing and clearly the 229th ranked recruit is better then the 67th ranked national recruit. Sends a consistent message.
No, I think they're saying the 2 games they watched on TV for a prospect was probably better for judgment than everyone else who went and saw the kids in person for games and/or camps. I mean, having a TV announcer on a high school broadcast not mention a kid's name must mean their ranking needs to be adjusted, right?
I watched the Gilman game on TV once and constantly heard "Poggi" mentioned so he must be the top player in Maryland. Some of those references were probably "Coach Poggi", but doesn't matter right?
It was only a year ago they had a Michigan recruit ranked #1, despite the fact Wormley wasn't getting that much love nationally. Kuerlic and Porter watch a ton of Ohio high school football, but Ill always take any list with a grain of salt. Let's wait 3 years before we analyze any recruiting rankings. Someone look up the 2009 bucknuts top 50 and you can have a real debate.
I'd say my top 10 for 2013 would be:
1. Jalin Marshall
2. Dymonte Thomas
3. Cameron Burrows
4. Gareon Conley
5. Mitch Trubisky
6. Billy Price
7. DeVeon Smith
8. Taco Charlton
9. Evan Lisle
10. Ben Gedeon
And I'm being nice by including Evan Lisle instead of Mike McCray. Lisle is not a top-3 player in Ohio.
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