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Well that didn't take Smith long at all did it? Not surprised at all by Mclemore.
This was listed in the OP.
That's what I mean, I think McGary needs at least a mid-range shot to be a good NBA pro. At the moment it's a very basic offensive skillset.
Being so close this year I think will get them all to come back.
While I don't think this will happen, I'm praying so hard that it does.
I think the only reason Trey might come back is the stinging loss in the NC. Michigan Daily posted an article about Trey. There is a quote in the article where one of the coaches asks Burke if he likes winning. Burke responds by saying: "Coach, I win. It's what I do." He may not come back, and I think he'd be crazy to not go into the draft. With all that said, crazier things have happened.
This post was edited by skepticalguy90 12 months ago
Honestly, after Taylor Lewan came back, anything really can happen.
I think Burke is gone, the others maybe...but after Lewan, yeah, never say never.
I think Burke is going to declare he is a top 10 pick so really it's a no brainer as far as the others hardaway is the most liklely so i'd expect if beilein loses more then Burke he is out beating the bushes looking for another guard .. Be interesting if JB gives Jarena Sina a look since has basically opened his recruitement back up
I can only hope that Trey Burke pulls a Jason Williams (of Duke fame).
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This post was edited by ACWolverine 12 months ago
Burke should go.. his size kills his NBA draft stock, but his stats this year were almost unbelievable. He'd be foolish to risk the millions of dollars he can get.
McGary feels a lot like Lewan to me. He's a big guy with a high motor and that is not going to change. Nix and Ravenel are gone, and if Zeller and Payne go pro it doesn't leave a lot of size/experience in the Big Ten. Mitch could easily improve his stock by coming back, and even if he didn't drastically improve, he's still going to get drafted because he's a big dude with a high motor and NBA scouts will take a chance on that every time.
I think he and Glenn come back to make one more run with their classmates...
Maybe he's more like a right-handed, (slightly) more fundamentally sound David Lee?
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With everything that has happened this year, considering the pros and cons of Tim Hardaway Jr. going pro, I can't believe there is such a high chance he leaves. The short list:
Pros of leaving (Achieve dream of NBA, $$)
Pros of staying (Senior leader, chance at a B1G Title/NC, improve his game, improve his draft stock, and most importantly acquire his 4 year degree)
I understand why he would leave, but at the same time I really do not understand it. The pros of leaving this year are still going to be there waiting for him next spring. So he's 22 and not 21, big deal? His draft stock may not change, but it's not like he's a lottery pick, let alone a first rounder. It's not as if his family needs the money to the point of forfeiting his final year of eligibility.
I know it's easy for me to say, because as I sit here, I don't have to decide whether or not to sign a multi-million dollar contract. Tim Hardaway Jr. staying makes too much sense to me, which is why I think he will leave.
Personally, I love the idea of every athlete getting their education. Even more so in a league that is extremely difficult to stick long term (like the NBA).
However, with the NBA drafting predominately on potential, I could see why all of them would leave.
My personal opinion is that only Trey Burke should leave. He cannot accomplish much more. Only a NC....and the Sporting News Player of the Year (dumbasses!). GR3 has a lot to improve (but would be drafted on immense potential). McGary needs to prove he can do it over the long haul and continue to improve his midrange jumper and free throws. THJ still needs to get more physical which is an area he can improve (which will also help defensively and rebounding).
This post was edited by BMirz3 12 months ago
The waiting is going to kill me, I've been checking sports outlets since the game ended to see who is leaving and who is staying. I just hope they announce their plans soon so we can start to project the squad we have next year.
I will be as shocked by Burke staying as I was with Lewan. He should really go...he can't do much else.
THJ should stay. He doesn't need the money, is not guaranteed a 1st round pick...why leave?
McGary is probably a coin flip. This draft is so weak, if he came out he would probably be a lottery pick. But he doesn't have the skills yet to really be a great NBA player.
GRIII should see THJ and stay...again, he has little to lose by staying.
+1 - As always...a solid post from you.
Burke needs to go. I didn't say that about Manny or Darius. I thought they should have stayed. But you're right...what else can Trey do? Besides coming back for a NC (which let's face it, isn't a guarantee), what other award could this guy possibly win? If Trey were to announce he's coming back for another run at it, I would be on jumping for joy, but that's not going to happen. I thought he was crazy for even considering leaving after his FR year and thought he needed at least 2 more years before even being considered a late 1st round pick/early 2nd pick. Well, he sure proved me wrong. Yep...call me a Michigan homer if you want, but Trey is probably the most unselfish leader in college hoops that I've seen in a very very long time. Michigan will be talking about Trey for a long time for the mere fact that this "MICHIGAN MAN" is one of our own, our best....and yeah...he just so happens to be from Columbus, OH.
As far as the others...well...I have the same feelings about them as I did about Manny and Darius. And I have a feeling Trey is going to do one more solid for the University of Michigan and sit down with all of them and say: "Look at what happened with me....I was thinking of leaving. Worked my a$$ off and improved my NBA Draft Stock more than I EVER thought was possible. You need to stay and let Coach B show you what he can do for ya. And go get that NC for Michigan in 2014!"
This is a really good point. Even if Burke doesn't have this conversation with them himself, our odds at keeping the GR3 and McGary may be higher than they would "normally" have been just because they've seen what's happened with Burke up close and personal...the fringe-ish 1st round pick transformed into the consensus Player of the Year and a surefire lottery pick with an extra year in school.
I'm starting to think that GR3 and McGary may turn out to be something of a package deal, i.e. if one goes to the NBA the other will too, and vice versa. They're in pretty much the same situation: 1st round picks who should be able to improve their stock with an extra year in school, but might be able to go in the lottery should they declare now. They're also really tight - they played together in AAU, they're roommates at M - so if one should choose to stay, that might be a tipping point for the other to stay...and it could well work out the other way too. I think I'll definitely be surprised if one stays and the other goes.
THJ has his own decision to make. Like I said before, I think he'd be well-served by staying...his ceiling is probably "quality option off the bench for a good team" no matter what he does, and he's not under any financial strain (I assume), so why not spend another year swaggerhounding around campus, get a degree, and be the veteran leader on a team that could contend for a national title again?
There are so many variables...but the one variable that is not here is 'money'. I don't think Burke is financially needy either. All of these guys are going to be making these decisions for reasons other than purely financial.
first off that article on Burke was awesome...I think he really is my favorite basketball player of all time...not just Michigan basketball, and he hasnt even gone to the NBA yet. that being said he should and most likely will go to the NBA draft. Id be way more surprised if he stayed than when Lewan stayed, i always had a feeling Lewan would stay.
Tim Hardaway Jr. i think should stay. his draft stock went down a little during the tournament and he was already borderline 1st/2nd round. There is no guarentee that he ever even really plays a lot in the NBA. If i were him i would like to enjoy my time being a star on a top college team than go to the NBA and sit the bench for awhile...He just isnt consistant enough.
McGary i really think is going to stay. He is the least of my worries. His draft stock went wayyy up during the tournament. he went from off the radar to a projected top 15 pick. I just get the feeling with McGary that he LOVES Michigan, and everyone loves him back. They way he pumps up the crowd and how they react to him...No way he leaves this year. He is coming back for at least one more year. Plus he has already said he is staying.
GRIII I dont think is ready for NBA. He may have the most potential out of anybody else, but he can only help his draft stock by coming back and having a better year this year. Once he shows he can shoot the ball with some consistancy and create drives by himself, he will be ready. I think ultimately GRIII will stay for next year. Him McGary and Albrecht have all played together for a little bit and I think that will play a small factor in his choice. and just like with Trey last year, they want to come back for one more chance at a National Championship. Our freshman got so close their first year, I think all 5 come back to compete for another one
if we only loose Burke I would be thrilled and consider it a victory. We would have a real shot at the title again.
So has anyone seen any of the 4 kids in class or on campus?
Heck if Spike plays half as good as he did in the Title game I'd be pleased next year with Walton coming in. This goes without saying but we'll be deadly from the outside again and McGary, Horford, and Morgan will do what they did all year except I think Mitch becomes a great inside presence. The only thing we'll need is a penetrating PG. We don't need Spike or Walton to be Trey Burke. We just need a good assist man cause we'll have the scorers to pick up the slack.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
McGary is also a lefty, FYI.
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