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My gut feeling is that Toussaint will play against Alabama Saturday. With his DUI charge reduced to driving while visibly impaired and being placed the starter on the week 1 depth chart, I think he plays. Maybe suspended for a quarter or a half but my gut tells me he's playing. What do you guys think now that it's closer to gameday?
So he wasnt drunk, he just forgot to wear his glasses! OOOOHHHH I thought when an officer pulls you over and gives you a sobriety test and you fail it then you are drunk, not blind.
All jokes aside, I hope he does play that way its the best vs the best.... No if that and if this.. either yall win or we do.
Looking forward to Saturday.. RTR
At first, I was super against him playing, but I've relented a bit. I'd rather him sit out, but I think it's pretty likely he'll play.
My guess is we see Rawls start the game but Fitz comes in in the second half.
I like the insecurity among Bama fans, posting on a Michigan related topic, on a Michigan board, before a Michigan fan does.
Haha I wasn't too sure about how that gets knocked down to driving while visibly impaired either but it is what it is. Really looking forward to a great game. Excited to see TJ Yeldon play. Such an exciting player in HS and in the spring for Bama.
I almost downvoted you for that
Doubt that, I think you are amongst a minority group of our fans that is way to overconfident about this game. Toussaint shouldn't be playing, but that's not my call.
Edit:in response to maize and blue
This post was edited by Elderpanda 23 months ago
I agree, I think he is suspended for at least a quarter.
As I've posted in other threads, I am fine with whatever the coaches decide in terms of playing him or not.
I never quite understood the "suspended for the 1st half" stuff though because if you still end up getting 20 carries, was it really a suspension or penalty? I think you either have to come out and say the kid has proven he has learned his lesson and is being given the opportunity to play, or you don't play him at all.
As of right now, I don't think he plays. My reasoning is that Hoke and Brandon would want to deal with the negative backlash they will undoubtedly get earlier in the week. Announcing on Thursday that he's going to play and having negative press come out the day before the game wouldn't make sense. Give it time to blow over now by getting it out there. We saw the Twitter/Message board responses when the depth chart came out, so there will be a lot of negativity around it, even though I don't agree with it, if he plays.
I still hope that Coach Hoke suspends him from the Alabama game.
Actions have consequences. And Fitzgerald made a stupid decision and he needs to be taught a public lesson in my opinion.
A precedent needs to be set and maintained.
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I don't think he sits out at all. I think Hoke will say "he underwent extreme punishment on a daily basis and has paid the price; he now knows what we expect out of our Michigan Athletes"....something along those lines. It will be a big deal for about a day and that'll be it. If we win, then we get some Bama trollers no doubt but I'll deal with that gladly instead of an "L"
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
It's standard for first time offenders. They get their conviction and their fine money, and they don't risk going to trial and spending a bunch of tax payer money, or risk the chance that the arresting/testing procedure wasn't followed to the "T".
I don't think he will play.
I think this is Hoke showing some gamesmanship; keep em guessing until as late as possible. Like Belichick always having Brady on the injury report.
There's no downside in waiting to announce a suspension, but there is a potential gain. Just my
Why does a public lesson mean more than a private lesson? Yes, he made a mistake and there should be consequences, but that doesn't mean a game suspension is the right approach just because it's in the public eye.
There are different reasons for using the carrot and the stick in terms of motivation and discipline. Do you reward somebody who owned up to their mistake? Or blindly set a precedent that might tell kids in the future they need to try to hide what they did to avoid getting in trouble? Kids (and adults) make mistakes, so there are going to be more cases like this in the future.
If a kid walks into your office, looks you in the eyes, says he made a mistake, learned from his mistake, and is will to pay whatever price is necessary to stay on the team, even if it means suspensions, do you handle that the same way as a kid who doesn't show remorse and isn't owning up to it? I have no clue how the Fitz situation was handled by himself or the coaches, just playing devil's advocate to show these are not black-and-white situations.
I think that's absurd. If you don't think that every Sparty and Bucknutter won't be bringing up Hoke's disciplinary actions, especially in an instance with this profile, you are kidding yourself.
Nah man just checkin out yalls board seeing what yall are predicting for the game... Enjoying a great week leading up to the game of the week. No insecurity here just making a little joke.
Good luck and enjoy the game.
I still have mixed feelings on this. I think there is more and more chance Fitz plays, but let us be honest...if it was another team, we would be critical.
I was preoccupied, but I think they just said on ESPNU that he'll be playing. Maybe I heard wrong because I don't see it confirmed anywhere else.
Agree. The plea is a technicality. In Chicago, you automatically are offered "supervision" and a DUI conviction does not go on your record for a first time offense. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. Fitz should be suspended for one game and, unfortunately for his teammates and the fans, the first game up is Alabama at Jerry World.
He must of had the same judge all the Ohio players had.
I agree as well. he was still drinking and driving. This was the right sentence for a first offender, but that doesn't change the reality.
Maybe. But when Hoke keeps him out of the Bama game it will be crystal clear that he doesn't have the same "win-at-all-costs" slimeball of a head coach.
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If he plays against Alabama I hope that he sits against Air Force, though I doubt that will happen. Punishing these players behind closed doors is good & all, but lets be serious, the only way to get your point across to your entire team and the nation is by disciplining your team through playing time.
These are athletes, to make them workout extra hard at practice is not a justifiable punishment for an athlete representing the University of Michigan and getting a DUI (let's call it was it is, not what the plea says).
I'm hoping he doesn't play.
Could not agree more.
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