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What does coaches/ADs not being college students have to do with "fun and the love of the game"?
I don't think it's OK to pay recruits within the current system because it's against the rules, meaning schools paying recruits are getting an unfair competitive advantage, i.e. cheating.
The coaches/ADs work for the university. That's different from just attending the school as a student.
Well yeah, but it's also against the rules to pay players within the current system.
I'm saying if its all "for fun and the love of the game," why doesn't the University of Alabama save itself millions of dollars per year and let the football team be coached by volunteers instead of a professional staff?
...and I want the current system changed. That's the point. It's wrong for Ole Miss to be paying recruits in 2013. Maybe 5-10 years down the road, the system will be changed and it won't be wrong.
aw man do I miss guys like Probie and Kocur. No one wanted to F with the wings with those guys on the team lol my dad was at the brawl back in 1997 when McCarty threw Claude Lemieux head first into the boards. Best game ever
You're reading too much into that phrase "it's for fun and love of the game". Coaching is a profession, being a student is not. That's really all there is to it. I'm not sure what else to say.
Saying college players should get paid for competing is like saying HS DECA club students should get paid if they win the state competition. It's just wrong.
I just don't see why anybody would want the system changed though. That would be absolutely terrible if recruiting turned into a bidding war.
Coaches are paid because they are teachers who provide their expertise to students. It's erroneous to believe that student and teacher alike perform similar tasks. John Beilein and the University of Michigan provide services to Trey Burke, Nik Stauskas and Co. in the form of education and skills development in addition to logistical servces - those services are given free of charge in exchange for Burke & Stauskas providing their athletic talents to the university.
That's a fair deal. It's only *unfair* if you believe the "fair" alternative is 18 year olds driving around in Mercs and wearing Armani. It's hilarious to enlist left-wing sociology in the service of agents and players getting rich just a bit more quickly.
S/O to you Rabid for incorporating DECA into your post. This has nothing to do with your post at all just a proud former DECA member
Don't know if I can speak for inyuesta on this, but when I argue for players getting paid it isn't because I think they aren't getting enough already. A free college education for playing a sport is something I'd kill for. I just think for the amount of money the schools make while expending none of the risk, and then taking it one step further to exploit the college athlete by making even more money off their likeliness is criminal. And what's fair is fair. The system needs to be fixed period.
You're right, being a student isn't a profession. I don't want to pay football and basketball players for being students. I want to pay them for the 50+ hours a week they're putting in as football and basketball players.
I don't know what DECA club is, but I'm pretty sure no one is paying billions of dollars for the right to televise it. Therein lies the key distinction.
I don't see what the problem would be if the system were implemented properly, with salary caps and roster limits and all that sort of thing. It would actually help even playing field for top recruits imo.
This post was edited by inuyesta 12 months ago
Sinilar to the Fab Five, people don't want to college sports change as they know it even though the change has already happened whether they like it or not.
If you guys havent seen David Dawsons twitter you should go take a look. A LOTTT of smack talk between Florida and Michigan. it is pretty entertaining
For the millionth time, no one is claiming the players don't get **anything** under the current system. Obviously there's a lot of value in what college athletes get.
I don't understand your second paragraph at all. Every serious proposal I've read about paying players puts compensation somewhere between 20 and 50 thousand per year per athlete. That's not nothing, but its hardly "driving around in Mercs and wearing Armani" money either.
As for "players getting rich just a bit more quickly"...uh...a TINY percentage of CFB and CBB players ever "get rich" from their athletic skills. If there are 125 FBS schools with 85 scholarship players each, that's 10,625 players per year, of whom 224 will be drafted to the NFL, plus the handful of undrafted free agents each year who have a shot at a career, minus the draftees who come from outside FBS. Call it 300 pros per year. That's just 2.8% of college football players who will ever make the league. Then consider that the average NFL career is just 3.2 years, and that most of those players are unlikely to rise above league minimum pay, and that a huge portion of all their income will be zapped away by agents and taxes. All considered, I'd be shocked if much more than 1% of CFB players ever "got rich" from playing football.
I probably basically agree with this.
Can you guys start an OT thread on this subject? We should try to keep this thread about Michigan basketball.
Well nobody is forcing them to put in those hours. They do that of their own accord.
Point taken on DECA being televised, I think my general point still stands though.
Do you think the highly recruited players (i.e. players that have offers from Bama, USC, everybody) should have a higher price than less sought after recruits?
this topic is still being talked about?who wants to read a 9 page paper on it?ill copy and paste it in here...
If people have such an issue with the system, and think it's "criminal" that college kids aren't getting paid. Then don't watch on TV to add to the ratings. Don't pay for tickets to games. Don't come on here and pay money to follow recruiting...
Complaining about the sytem, while contributing to it's success, doesn't really make sense.
One of the great things about this tournament run is guys like Vogrich, Mclimmans, Akunne, Barlstein, Pearson, and anyone else on the "investment commitee" I missed. Guys werent the highest rated recruits when they entered the program but they stuck there on the practice squads because they loved being here.
Just a heads up. I just went into the MDen at Laurel Park Place in Livonia and they say all MDen locations will have Final Four stuff tommorow. I know for sure I am going to pick up a hat and a program. Maybe a T shirt as well.
I was so happy that they got a chance to play against Florida. The reaction to Vogrich's 3 was great.
This post was edited by MaizeKC 12 months ago
Yea after Vogrich saw his role diminish it was priceless to see him have that moment
Now that we are back on track for the thread I feel I have to comment.
why do u say ur happy they got to play Florida?was Vogrich recruited by them or something?
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