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I think if we make it past Kansas in the Sweet 16, we should make the Final 4
Did he say that? No. But anything less with the talent this team has will put Belein on the hot seat. Dave Brandon wants to win. He doesn't care how nice of a guy the coach is.
I got us in the FF, along with OSU and Indiana and Louisville. No homer. ;)
You think we'd beat GTown/Florida in the E8?? I don't know, GTown scares me. I think we could take UF though. (assuming you have one of them in the elite 8)
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 13 months ago
My homer bracket has us beating Florida in the E8. I like our chances against them if we get that far
I agree with this...Florida doesn't scare me, but Georgetown does.
I don't think it would put Coach B on the hot seat. He has gotten this team to accomplish a lot of things it hasn't done in a long time. A little more patience is in order.
I just think Kansas is a tougher matchup than GT or UF personally.
I concur with that, but that's an endgame, sometimes endgames are initiated by pivotal moments that happen considerable time before it gets to that point. We could probably talk about moments from the early 2000s where it was palpable that things perhaps weren't heading the right direction with Lloyd.
I think the point is that another early exit would be a *major negative* for the program. Perhaps the first real one of the Beilein era, but then these things culminate, don't they? If they don't lose to Ohio last year and then beat South Florida (not exactly undoable) to get to the Sweet Sixteen the pressure on the team *this* tournament would probably be less severe. Just like another early exit this year will lead to further ramped up pressure down the line.
This post was edited by UMSkeletor 13 months ago
This is what I'm gravitating toward...
* * * N E O . R E T R O * * *
KU had some big lapses mid to late season. UF is probably a much better team for this tournament due to their consistency.
I am about as big as Michigan fan as you will find, but I just could not picture Michigan beating VCU, Kansas, and then Georgetown too all in a row in my bracket. I have them beating VCU and Kansas but then losing to Georgetown in the Elite 8. I obviously wouldn't mind Michigan going all the way and me losing all my bracket money though
This post was edited by Woody04 13 months ago
What do you guys think about the most recent mock draft at NBAdraft.net - http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft
GRIII - just outside the lottery at #13
Burke - #15
Hardaway - #23
Deshaun Thomas - #32
Adreian Payne - #39
I understand the whole upside debate, but still find it surprising that all 3 Michigan guys would be ahead of those other 3...
I think Payne is the best future pro of any of those names, with Burke/Robinson/Harris being just behind.
I know its for potential, but Robinson is not even close to ready for the NBA. and he is ahead of Burke?i just find this hard to believe, Robinson has a lot more to prove to me. If he played like he was a top 15 draft pick we wouldn't have lost more than a game or 2. Burke and Hardaway did their part MOST of the time...
Payne baffles me. Pure talent wise he probably should be the best player in the Big Ten if you ask me. 6'11, long arms, athletic. Nice post moves and can shoot. Just so inconsistent it is mind boggling. Maybe the NBA guys just don't think he has the desire to be great.
I would be interested in hearing why they have Hardaway ahead of Deshaun Thomas and what their thoughts are on Gary Harris.
God, right now I would take Gary Harris ahead of GRIII.
Not me. Harris to me is nothing more than a shooter right now. He is not great off the dribble. GRIII is much more athletic and has much more upside in my opinion.
I agree with you on Harris and GRIII does have upside and is athletic. However, GRIII can not create for himself at the moment, is not very good off the dribble and is an average shooter on anything over 5 feet away. Plus his defense is a liability.
I think GRIII will be a great player but as a pure basketball player, Harris has the edge currently in my opinion.
I didn't say GRIII is better right now. I have seen glimpses of GRIII taking it to the hoop strong the last couple of games so he is working on it. Harris would not be a star in the NBA next year if he was drafted just like GRIII wouldn't. Give each of them a couple years to develop and I like GRIII more.
GRIII would make a huge mistake going to the draft this year IMO. I'm hoping him and Hardaway stay. Robinson has a lot of improving to do.
While I agree that it's hard to imagine Michigan pulling off all these tough wins in a row, honestly I don't see a team out there that would justify such a huge degree of confidence either. There is no team out there who can look at their bracket and say "yeah we really ought to win all these games".
Call me a hater, but Harris > Robinson. And Harris has been dealing with re-occuring shoulder injuries for most of the season basically. He's a better defender, better ball handler, better shooter, can create for himself much better, is better with both hands overall....and is also very athletic. He's thrown down a few impressive dunks that I've seen this season. He definitely has hops, but he has such smoothness about his game, which I love. I think Robinson has the potential to be big time(once he changes positions from the goddamn 4 spot), but at this point, he's nowhere near ready for the NBA and I'll be pretty bummed if he bounces.
This post was edited by Jbolin9992 13 months ago
Harris is a lottery pick at this point. And for all of the supposed athleticism that Robinson possesses, he doesn't do much on the defensive end of the floor to justify taking him high in the draft. Obviously his offensive game is still a work in progress as well, and he needs to improve his ballhandling.
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