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He could easily play on the line in a 3-4 scheme. I think alot of the crystal ball predictions to Bama are because many still believe that Bama beats anyone in a head to head battle, or are the presumptive favorite if they are in a top 3
No, he's likely still serious about education, but the difference in educations between Stanford and Duke is really not that great. This is what I was alluding to in my first post in this exchange, where I said
"If you apply and get into both and choose Alabama, it's not because of they have superior academics, or because the academics are a wash and some other factor(s) broke the tie."
In the case of Stanford vs. Duke, the academics are basically a wash, so of course other factors will ultimately sway the decision. Stanford vs. Duke is not an apt analogy to Michigan vs. Alabama. If your hypothetical student picked Wake Forest Law or Campbell Law or something over Stanford, that would be more comparable, and yes, I would say that they very likely are not serious about academics in that situation.
Perhaps my post would have been strengthened by clarifying that I'm talking about situations where there's a large/significant gap in academic quality, as exists between Michigan and Alabama.
He’s could do it but having him two gap would be wasting his talents. A one gap 3-4 would be a decent fit, but his best fit IMO is as a SDE or as a LDE in a 4-3 scheme.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here and guess that 3 MNC's in the last 4 years might have something to do with it. Honestly, why would anyone be surprised about Bama being a factor for any recruit?
No one is insulting the kid and this is not an SAT logic problem. But if you must use boolean logic...let's start with three facts.
A) Hand says academics (business and engineering) are very important.
B) Hand is smart.
C) Alabama is a bottom tier engineering school according to independent studies.
Now let's assume everything else is approximately equal (actually he loves the M coaches and Peppers is his dude).
So if A,B,and C are true, then...
A+B+C = Hand will do his research and choose Michigan.
This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by Uncle Newt 10 months ago
You're my hero.
Nobody on this board can define the word regression.... but it sure gets used a lot.
Any analyst who has followed Michigan recruiting for the past two years should know better. The most venerable of all the "experts" still has Michigan out front even after the shift in his top 3. Alabama doesn't scare me anymore. Pretty sure Hoke has won the majority of head to heads with Saban.
This post was edited by DJNiteFlite 10 months ago
Bottom line is that Hand has stated many times that academics are very important. He's also said he's interested in engineering and business (and after his Michigan visit, Sports Management). He's a smart kid...very much like Peppers. They want a top tier education to fall back on and for after the NFL.
And Michigan academics and Alabama are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Here is a link to all the engineering schools below. Michigan is top 10 and Bama is all the way at the bottom. There are at least 5 other top football programs with highly ranked engineering programs that he could consider. So if Hand does his research on the academics and doesn't just listen to Alabama's sales pitch, the point inuesta and others are making is that Hand would have to abandon his academic priorities to go to Bama. That seems unlikey.
So we'll see if something else factors in here like a coaching change.
Michigan is also top ranked in Business and Sports Mgt
This post was edited by Uncle Newt 10 months ago
I'm confused. Hand just dropped VT and SC over their sports management programs (or lack thereof). What's with all the engineering talk? Speculation that he isn't 100% for sports management?
He was originally for Engineering and only became interested in Sports Management after his Michigan visit and a professors presentation. I would say I've never met a HS kid that was 100% sure of his college major.
Hyperbole? Plenty of kids go in 100% sure. I did. Most of my graduating class picked a major towards the end of HS and stuck with it or near it. That being said, I'm just wondering if there is any reason for the continued engineering comparison based on what Hand has let go. I know he originally was thinking engineering. He doesn't strike me as indecisive.
All i can say is that you need to read up on his comments in the last week or 24 hours on why he likes Bama and Michigan.
And you confused 'hyperbole' with 'joke'.
"There are at least 5 other top football programs with highly ranked engineering programs that he could consider."
True statement. And yet Hand never seemed to consider those programs. Even now, he's mentioned taking a look at LSU. Why not Stanford? He doesn't need to do much research to determine who the top academic schools are.
My point is that while I believe Hand is serious about education, it's always been just one of the factors influencing him. It doesn't seem to be his "top priority".
Having said all that, I do think he ends up at Michigan, with academics being a big reason.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BobUfer 10 months ago
I really hope Da'Shawn picks Michigan over Alabama. I have a great deal of respect for the Michigan football program, but I have none for Alabama. He's going to be an All-American in college and most likely a first-round pick, so best of luck to you guys.
Thanks, stop by anytime.
I can't imagine how you guys feel right now.
This is almost like Shane Morris eliminating Michigan as a recruit.
Best of luck to VT going forward, I've always liked your team and fanbase.
I feet the same about VT. Would have felt much better about losing him to VT than almost anyone else. Wish you guys the best.
These GIFs sum up how most of the fanbase feels.
Although....this felt much worse.
You seem to be the rare exception of a good hokie fan. Living here in Roanoke it's hard to find many but you can stop by anytime!!
Haha...Roanoke is pretty much the mecca of VT fans, so I'm sure you're surrounded by them. Most VT fans are good people, who are relatively knowledgeable when it comes to college football. I think some VT fans can become a little crazy because we have been so close to reaching the next level, and we all want to reach that level so damn bad. VT fans are as passionate as anyone in the country, but yeah....we have our fair share of crazies, just like everyone else. Except maybe Nebraska lol....their fans were awkwardly nice.
+1. I'm not above admitting that my argument was flawed. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers or saying anything negative about Michigan's academics, which are elite.
That said, I shouldn't try to integrate information from a symbolic logic course I took 3 years ago into an argument at 2 am after 4-5 beers. It just doesn't work out.
It's funny to me when people try to bash Michigan's academics in any way, shape or form. Most people, especially posters on sites like this, love to generalize. The argument can be bent in many different directions, but what it comes down to is that Michigan provides more academic opportunities than most programs.
A lot of kids major in general studies, well those classes are no joke. It's not as if they're taking psych 111 for four years. And each kid has their own potential to do as they wish. Any given recruit could pursue a degree in any one of Michigan's esteemed programs; it's up to them. If they want to primarily focus on football and take less rigorous courses, that's fine, they will still leave with a degree from Michigan. If they choose to major in engineering, business, public policy, econ, etc. then all the power to them. Those are tough programs for even the smartest of kids. Point being, each recruit has the opportunity to do that here, with each degree holding more weight than a vast majority of other Universities courting them.
In 5, 10, 40 years from now, they are still a Michigan graduate. That's a big accomplishment regardless of the field they enter.
However, Danny Coale did not catch the ball.
This post was edited by Aces High 10 months ago
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