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Mac, are you a Kentucky basketball fan?
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Not really. I just respect what Calipari has done. The cheating accusations are overblown. Big Papi's claim is legitimate. But I just think his work as a recruiter and coach has been spectacular. And most people are really misinformed on him.
I'll stop talking about him though although I'm not really sure where else I'm supposed to have that conversation on here or if its really that big of a deal at all.
I asked because you characterized Calipari as "the most demanding coach in the sport."
I don't know anyone but Kentucky fans who believe this when there are coaches like Coach K and Rick Pitino and Bill Self still coaching.
If Pitino had stayed at Kentucky, we would be having debates about who is better Coach K or Rick Pitino.
Btw, I think Pitino will coach Louisville to a 3rd straight Final Four in 2014. His team returns 8 of its 10 contributors from the previous season. Also, he redshirted a 6'10" Sudanese C named Mangok Mathiang. Lastly, he has a very good recruiting class coming in highlighted by JC Player of the Year PG Chris Jones (who will replace Peyton Siva).
In short, it seems Pitino has established a dynasty at Louisville and he has done it with lesser ranked recruits (which is unlike John Calipari who is recruiting a starting line-up of 5-star McDAAs every cycle).
I see where you're coming from. A coach like Pitino and Self have lesser recruits to work with and therefore demand the very most out of those teams to compete with the Kentucky's and Duke's.
But Calipari doesn't let these kids slide by on their star ratings. You watch his practices and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the third kid off the bench or the leading scorer. I just like his approach of handling top talent. A lot of coaches have to make concessions for those guys and almost let them run the team. Calipari does just the opposite. When I see top recruits talk about their impression of coach Cal, it's always about how straight forward he was and how there was no "we need you" type approach. After his national championship season 2 years ago I just came away really impressed. He took a team full of freshmen and sophomores and got the most out of every one of them. Most teams with that much young talent will lose a few games simply by not showing up to play. They went into just about every game knowing this was the other teams biggest game on the schedule and they came ready to play every game. Almost ran the table.
To be completely honest with you, I hate Rick Pitino. Think he's the scum of the earth. But he's an incredible coach. Better than Calipari. But it's not as if his approach of recruiting lesser ranked guys doesn't have his advantages too. Would you rather have a fourth year Peyton Siva or a freshman Andrew Harrison? Harrison is much more talented but I think a lot would take Siva with the game on the line. At the end of the day with all the talent Calipari has he's coaching a new team every year. That takes a great coaching job too.
This post was edited by mac1992 15 months ago
An SEC point guard? Spike would be a top point guard in the SEC. SEC basketball sucks, especially last year. It's like the tallest of the midgets. Not tough enough to be an SEC point guard. If you can't play in the SEC then you can't play period.
“@SamWebb77: #Michigan headman John Beilein Strikes Chord with 5-star Moss Point, MS SG, @DevinBook ($) http://michigan.scout.com/2/1286947.html#.UXnYwASuwAQ.twitter”
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
Can we talk more about Zimmerman? His tapes are absurd.
Check out arguably the TOP player in the class of 2015, 7 foot Stephen Zimmerman. The Bishop Gorman sophomore is a skilled and versatile big who can do it all. Look out for more of Stephen in the years to come!
You make it sound like it's tough being a PG in the SEC Do you watch hoops?
Zimmerman would be an unreal pickup
It would amazing if they could get Zimmerman and Barefield in the class of 2015.
I'm just gonna put this out there...
In 2014, we will have 2 players (Mitch McGary and Glenn Robinson III) who will contend for B1G Player of the Year and possibly National Player of the Year.
If Mitch McGary balls out next season, becomes an All-American, wins B1G Player of the Year, is a finalist for National Player of the Year, and helps lead Michigan to the elusive National Championship, then I can't imagine any other school having a better recruiting pitch to Stephen Zimmerman.
And if McGary doesn't win B1G Player of the Year and/or National Player of the Year, I hope Glenn Robinson at least comes close. It would the first father-son combo to accomplish that feat.
We will also have 2 freshman (Derrick Walton and Zak Irvin) who will contend for B1G Rookie of the Year award.
I don't think people have yet realized how deep we will be in 2014. I think Louisville, Kentucky, Duke (if the Blue Devils add Tarik Black from Memphis), and maybe Arizona will have similar depth to us.
We should be able to wear teams out.
woah what does this say??
I'm sorry guys, I PROMISE this will be my last response. I just can't help myself. I can't let a guy laugh at me when he has no clue.
Lets just name some SEC PG's from the last couple years and next year. Andrew Harrison, Aaron Harrison, Kasey Hill, Scotty Wilbekin, Phil Pressey, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Marquis Teague, Trevor Releford, Kenny Boynton, Brandon Knight.
I love Spike Albrecht as much as the next guy, but he's not in the same league as any of those guys. If you disagree, you're an idiot because the name of said league is the NBA. You might think the SEC sucks because its one of the weaker BCS conferences but that's a dumb way to think about it. There's 31 D1 conferences in college basketball. If you're going to play point guard for the best team in the SEC with the biggest fan base in the country, you must be tough. Big difference between being an SEC point guard and a Georgia State point guard. (That's where Harrow transferred, don't want that going over your head.)
Everyone else, I'm sorry for dragging this out so long and getting so off topic. Like I said I promise that's my last post on this.
I'm not on scout, but I know Beilein has been down there a lot recently watching him in open gym and AAU.
As far as that title, I do know that Booker has been quoted as saying he prefers schools that score a lot and have up tempo, high powered offenses. Michigan's style is definitely conducive to his preferences and his style of play.
Great points Frank. People are underestimating UM next year, which I am perfectly ok with right now.
really?he will fit right in with Michigan then, we dont like to play defense we wanna play offense!!lol im kind of kidding but not really, in all seriousness though we are known for up tempo and high powered offense, at least last year we were and i expect a lot of the same this year
For those who can't read Scout, Sam Webb has his recruiting roundup segment on Michigan insider. You can listen in on WTKA.com; they have the podcast.
If you listen to his segment from yesterday morning, he talks about Booker (Booker was affected by Grayson Allen's commitment to Duke+more).
It's a great way to get insider info from one of the best in the biz.
i did that one time when i stayed home sick from work and it was great, it was all about Drake Harris when i listened, i cant listen to it here at work though, you should listen and summarize the good stuff over here when its over
maybe even take notes??
You start your legendary point guard list with two high school kids that are going to Kentucky, this immediately tells you the high quality of the SEC. Have you watched the Harrison twins play? I have living in Houston they go to a Fort Bend school, the southwest part of town. Not that impressed, really good athletes but need a great deal of coaching not sure if they would start at several B1G schools. Keep drinking the kool-aid man.
Sitting down here in Indy and Michigan Head Coach John Beilein is here as well watching 2016 G Eron Gordon.
From an intervew with Mark Donnal on UMHoops.com:
What have you seen from Mitch McGary’s development that excites you as a big man?
“One of the games I saw when we were there for the Final Four was against Syracuse, when they put Mitch up in the high post. They had him shooting those mid-range jumpers, and that’s one of the things that coach Beilein said that I would be doing. It was just great to see Mitch playing that role and hitting those shots out there in a game like that.”
What do the coaches have you working on this summer?
“I’ve been working on pick-and-pop. That’s one of the things they said me and Derrick would probably be doing — a lot of pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop sets like that. I’ve just been working on my mid-range jumpshot, my post moves, my hook shots both right and left. Those are the main things I’ve been working on.”
Awesome to hear. I think I'm most excited to see him working on his short hooks. It'd be nice to be able to go down low to a guy and have him be able to score when things arent falling from outside.
Yeah on Mgoblog people don't understand how good we'll be. They think that losing Burke and Hardaway will make it so we can't have as much success as last year. This is far from true. Every year under JB, Michigan has had good guards. Walton and Irvin will be very good and that is supposed to be the weak link according to our doubters. Hardaway and Burke didn't really do much in the tournament compared to McGary.
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