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-On Fitzgerald Toussaint: Purdue defense was structured to stop him. Didn't have many opportunities to gain yards. Hoke still pleased with Fitz.
-Getting pressure on opposing QB's: "We keep searching for different ways to manufacture some pressure ... I think we're a work in progress with it."
- The plan was to get Denard back to running the ball. The game needed to be that way
On this week's game: "We're in a championship game every Saturday, and our attitudes and actions need to reflect that."
On Illinois QB Nathan Sheelhaas: He is a dangerous QB. Played well verse Wisconsin. Can really do some damage with his feet.
Hoke also said he is very pleased with Gallon on punt return. He said Dileo was back there sometimes because of inconsistencies in Purdue's punter.
Anything on Rawls?
It didn't sound like Rawls would see increased playing time because Hoke said he is pleased with Fitz.
I feel bad for all the media attending these press conferences. It was clear from Day 1 that Hoke wasn't going to divulge any real information during these things, so for all the great questions asked, we really don't learn anything. "He's fine" is the response on new injuries, "He's getting better" is the answer on how injuries are progressing, and the depth chart stays the exact same.
Nothing close to the Mike Leach pressers where he may end up ranting about "fat little girlfriends."
I don't think many coaches really give out much info in their pressers. If your smart, you just want to get out of there as soon a possible and not give out much to the other team. Also want to try and not give any bulletin board material.
If we don't start seeing more Rawls and sooner in games, my head is going to explode.
I agree. The way he ran on Saturday, it would be hard for me not to give him more carries this week if I was coach.
Fitzy is just more proven.....Rawls will have his day
Ok, but what is wrong with using both, especially when Fitz is struggling? In the Alabama game, we were doing fairly well against Eddie Lacy so Saban changed things up and put in TJ Yeldon ... and he gashed us. It's not rocket science. Each has different skills and talents. And every player has his on days and his off days. Rotate them both and if one gets particularly hot go ahead and ride him. I'm also sick and tired of everyone blaming our lackluster running game (sans Denard) on the OL. Some of it is Fitz dancing and looking for the perfect hole instead of just running over people. Rawls showed again on Saturday that running over people can be very effective when done with the right attitude and brute force.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 18 months ago
1. Yeldon was a high 4 star/5 star true freshman who was already going to get snaps.
2. Rawls got his snaps against bama and showed the same happy feet as fitz
3. Rawls performed against purdue's back ups on D.
What's tiring is fans ready to yank players PT because they aren't seeing fireworks on every snap. fans wanted to bench denard, bench fitz, bench gallon on punts, earlier in the season it was bench roundtree.
Fact is the coaches have proven that they don't hesitate to play the guy who is performing well enough to warrant snaps. Just be patient folks and don't be so quick to make changes. We are 3-2, lost to the best team in the country and beat ourselves by 7 to ND. The coaches are playing smith so it's not like they aren't sharing carries, perhaps there are other concerns such as pass protection, who knows? Chemistry and execution is vital to our success and the coaches have an ear to what is best right now.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Luger 18 months ago
So if Rawls was ranked higher you would play him? TJ Yeldon's recruiting ranking is irrelevant. And you need to work on your reading comprehension. No one said anything about yanking anyone. Toussaint wasn't born with the God given right to take snaps ahead of Rawls or anyone else. He has played in every game this year (except the one he was suspended for) and his performance has been mediocre. It has been nothing close to how he was running at the end of last season. Is some of that a function of OL play? Certainly. But some is also on Fitz. In comparison, when Rawls has gotten into the game (which is rarely) he has been effective. Maybe you believe that's only because he's running against backups, but I don't. And there's a very easy way to find out ... put him in against the starters. Sitting him on the bench and not even giving him a shot accomplishes nothing.
Edit: And Smith is an entirely different style of RB. That has nothing to do with Fitz v. Rawls.
I love what Rawls brings to the backfield, and I get more excited when he's back there over any other back, but Toussaint rushed for over 1,000 yards last year. It's a different scale, but not far off from Bama's Ingram/Richardson situation a little while back. Experience that gets it done-what will your thoughts be if Fitz rushes for 150 against Illinois?
Don't read into the obvious. Yeldon like funchess get snaps because they warrant the snaps to be on the field, stars has nothing to do with it. I assume you follow coll football not just UM, if u do you would know my point was yeldon was outshining all backs through the spring and fall for bama, so it wasn't us shutting down lacy that got yeldon on the field. I said fans want to take PT away from players, I didn't call you out specifically, don't get so sensitive. I also said the coaches are playing the guys who deserve to be on the field, they have demonstrated that regardless of stars or yrs on the team, the best 11 at the time play. They dont have special rules for anyone, including fitz. Thus if Rawls isn't in yet must be a reason we aren't readily seeing.
Here is the full press conference.
I can see and read. I watched the game and read the stat sheet. Nothing in either forms of information showed Fitz to be unquestionably the better option as many have stated, in fact quite the opposite IMO.
Rawls deserves more carries! This isn't a one week thing we have had poor production from the running back position all year. The only game that should of been expected in was Bama IMO.
Fine. Make up your own reasoning why Saban played Yeldon. It's irrelevant. The point is he played both Lacy and Yeldon. In fact, he also played Hart and another RB too. It's ok to play multiple backs. And that is all I said in my original post. I did not say stop playing Fitz. I said play both. They both have different talents and one might be more effective in a partifular game than the other. That's what I wrote and you threw a hissy fit.
Love your points Luger keep up the good work!
Rawls ran for 1.5 ypc against Bama. And he did it in game one with an OL that was blocking far less effectively than it is now. Fitz ran for 1.1 ypc against Purdue in game five. Is Purdue's run defense really that much better than Bama's?
I agree with alot in this, but the caveat with Rawls is it limits the play selection for Denards running game. The whole zone read bs is predicated with Fitz or Smith, and im not sure that they have worked Rawls into that formation. That formation is responsible for much of Denards success. But I think Rawls would be easy to transition in that set as a lead blocker...or start in that formation then audible to an under center snap and for a more traditional down hill run play with Rawls.
So it seems like coach disagrees with most of us on the two biggest issues from this season so far. Fitz and Gallon. Maybe what he says during a monday routine presser will be different then what is actually on the field
I can definitely see that with the zone read plays, where Denard has to decide whether to give the ball or pull it. We don't need more TOs. But we should be able to work Rawls in more than we have so far. If he's not effective, go back to Fitz. But if he is effective, who needs the zone read plays? If Rawls can get us 4-5 ypc consistently, let him take some of the hits and save the wear and tear on Denard.
You getting all amped over cyber dialogue, relax---breathe. all I'm doing is providing a context that would possibly explain why Rawls is not getting carries. There is an old economics proverb that asks if you find a dollar on the floor do you pick it up?...depending on your perspective the answer could be no because if it was worth anything someone would've picked it up already.
My point is let's look at facts. Starting last yr, whether on O or D the coaches have clearly shown that they play the best 11. If a kid deserves snaps, whether it was black last yr, or funchess this yr, the guy will get his snaps. If someone is not, perhaps there is a reason...missed assignments, poor pass blocking, fumbles, not finishing runs all could be reasons why rawls isnt getting in. All of these things could be seen in practice. So for you to say Rawls should definitely be in based on runs he got against the 2nd team Purdue defense tells me you know something the coaches don't. Like the dollar example above, if having Rawls split carries with fitz was such a great idea the coaches would've done it already. Maybe Rawls will show what the coaches need to see this week but my point was obviously he isn't doing or showing something the coaches need to see to this point
Not even close, Bama is on a different level. I agree with you Rawls needs more time.
I agree with practicing well, but playing well needs to be a part of the equation. Fitz hasn't played well, unless we need to run on teams like UMass.
Maybe if Rawls sees some game time we will start to see a more determined Fitz.
You are exactly right about this, but all these same people were benching Denard and getting Bellomy some snaps.
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