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I know he is TERRIBLE right now, but before we start the #FireBorges train, I think we should give him a chance with the pro-style that will be implemented next year.
I don't trust him and will continue to think that he is a failure til the day I die.
The only time Fat Al has ever been good is when he had Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, etc....
I have often defended Borges but this game proved to me that he is not a good coordinator.
I don't care what his resume says. His resume was irrelevant in today's game. A number of his play calls were just indefensible.
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I don't think his playcalling was bad at all. When Denard was in, we possessed the ball and took our shots down field and were grinding it out. When Bellomy came in, I would've done the exact same thing: throw short passes, run the ball, and try to keep the team in it as long as possible if there was any chance Denard was coming back in. He was relying on the defense to keep us in it until the 4th quarter. I think he did a great job, because this game should have been a blowout.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
The call on 3rd and 4 in Michigan territory when Denard was still in the game is inexcusable. Rather than spread Nebraska out with 4 wide, he compressed our offense which allowed Nebraska to stack the box and predictably stop the run.
And then with Bellomy:
- Stretch plays when Nebraska is stacking the box?
- Throwing deep with a QB that has a noodle arm?
- Play action when Nebraska is stacking the box?
Our defense prevented the blow out. Not Borges.
The borges myth is built on 2 guys....Cadillac Williams/Ronnie Brown. Other than that Al is well traveled OC who never sticks at one place. No one ever makes the attempt to keep him when other other teams might want him. I mean NO one was willing to pony up to keep his services.
His offenses get worse as he stays at places longer. Utterly predictable and also moonlight as a QB coach. Well the top 2 Qb's in the program both are below average throwers. I shudder to think what happens when he gets his hands on Morris next year.
I know he wont get fired, but I'm sick of giving him the whole these aren't his players routine. Guess what these aren't Greg Mattison's players on D either and he has done a great job making something out of them. Borges has done just the opposite. Sorry, his free pass is gone seeing as how his offense has been held without a TD in 3 of 8 games this season.
Are there any up and coming OC’s or position coaches out there that we can get to replace Borges? Does UM have any position coaches in the NFL?
I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for Coach Hoke to fire Al Borges.
Scott Loeffler at Auburn but the Tigers are having a historically bad season. I don't know how much of that is Loeffler's fault because Auburn's offense is one of the worst in the nation.
Check my former posts.....
We were all over the #FireFickell bandwagon two weeks ago, but he's gotten better. Give Borges a chance.
He should be an awesome coordinator since he is a terrible recruiter.
Borges has to go.
We weren't helped at all by the receivers. They have to make some of those catches. But despite that, the offense is stagnant and predictable. Our personnel groups tip off defenses like a neon sign.
Fitz had a horrible day in pass pro
Our OL doesn't get any push
We don't even bother blocking LBs, even when we run a play right up the gut.
Williams is not a good blocker
It just pisses me off that we've taken a high scoring offense and turned it into this piece of garbage.
Borges is the new DeBord
More like Wolverine247 is the new RCMB.
We make the RCMB look like Nebraska fans
YEAH FIRE ROUSHAR
Wait, whoops wrong board. My bad.
I don't think Borges needs to be fired, but something has to change with offense. It's looked pretty stagnant the last 2 weeks and I was a bit disappointed with some of the personnel calls that the coaches made. Bellomy looked like a deer in the headlights and Fitz wasn't getting it done. Would have liked to have seen Gardner and Rawls get more playing time.
This post was edited by skepticalguy90 18 months ago
Not only the play calling, but the personnel in the game. We were rushing for about 1 yard per attempt. Why was Rawls never given a chance? I'm really tired of the "best" players will play line. Is 1 yard at a time the "best" we should expect from our rb's?
I’m new here, and this is my first post. I don’t consider myself an expert, nor do I know more then even some of you, and I won’t comment much. But I have had feelings, or an opinion about this offense since last year. First of all I have no idea how good the O-Line, the back up QBs are, or the rest of the O-positions really are. You play the games to compare yourself. We’re not as good as Alabama, but better then Massachusetts.
But I have noticed that the coaches have sacrificed certain aspects of the offence for the sake of using Denard’s talents or lack of talents. Including, developing back up QBs, and the offense that would fit the talents of those individuals.
The problem with Denard, or with the our coaches!
Having Denard in the game minimizes the effects (almost entirely) of the running game. More so against a good defensive game plan. Fritz T. runs to many plays that go east or west, and gain very few yards. The only person who may benefit from this is Denard, when he fakes a handoff, and runs in a counter direction. Fritz is sacrificed for Denard, and he has been so affected by this (the punishment) that he is afraid to hit the hole hard, he will even miss a hole because he spends to much time changing direction, or slows himself up because he is trying to juke people. He is not a burner. He is really not big enough to receive this type of punishment (need bigger fast RBs). Last year, Michigan ran many more plays between tackles, going North or South. The East/West plays take to long time to develop. We aren’t going to be able to hold the blocks long enough, or there are to many to block. Michigan seems intent on wasting way to many plays, so they may set up something else. Denard!
They ( other defenses) wouldn’t be able to stop Denard, or the team if he was a good passer. He is not. As far as the passing game is concerned. There are not enough W.R.s running short quick routes. Use your T.E. s for some of your short passes. I would at this point forego almost entirely Fritz, and Smith, for a blocking RB, that can catch a short pass. Your not going to put Denard under center much, so leave him in the shot gun, and call a passing play on almost every down (4 of 5). There he can still run if and when the play is covered. That would keep them (defense) somewhat honest. Less running by Denard, therefore less chance of injury.
So everyone knows how to stop Michigan! What can we do about it? Pray that Denard doesn’t get hurt anymore, and pray that he passes the ball better.
When the coaches keep saying that the problem with the running game, is blocking, they aren’t being entirely honest. They can’t admit that the problem is fundamental to the type of offense they run.
There may be good reason for this. Lack of talent, time to learn, and practice other schemes, etc. But we might be several years away before we get the result that we want.
The lack of carries by Rawls is a headscratcher, but maybe we just don't have all the information we need to understand the decision. And it's not like Borges operates in a vacuum. He and Hoke must have discussed it and Hoke must be on board with how Borges is using the RBs. If Hoke wanted Rawls to play more, he would be playing more. I don't understand why he's not, but at this point in the season you have to assume it's a conscious choice to play Fitz almost exclusively and Hoke agrees with it.
This offense does not have weapons on it... Sure, a better QB may make them look better, but the reality is, their isn't a better QB on the team than Denard and last night showed that and then some... Denard gives us the best shot to win but how does Borges utilize him better??? Run him more??? Then what you get is Denard on the sideline for the 2nd half... Its a double edged sword... You let Denard try to manage the game and not turn it over while keeping his jersey somewhat clean... Then let the D take care of the rest... Michigan was chewing up the clock and heading to take the lead 10-7 when Denard left... I have no doubt that Michigan would have been in it until the end with Denard playing and at this point, that is all we can ask Borges to do with the weapons he has(or doesn't have)
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