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"There's real recognition that we now live in two regions of the country, and we want to make sure those are bound together as best we can, so more games [makes sense]," Delany said. "Eight games is not on the table. It's nine or 10."
I'm a fan. Hopefully the couple of OOC games will be high quality and we'll just basically be missing out on games like CMU and Toledo.
I don't want to miss out playing teams like Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, whoever will be in the other division, so I'm a fan of more conference games.
I think nine works, but ten will make it almost impossible to schedule top tier OOC opponents. And it will isolate the B10 too much.
Also less home games, which means less revenue
I prefer a 9 game conference slate because 10 seems too many.
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I like 10. Think about where we're going with expansion. Mich will be playing teams from Nebraska, Rutgers to Maryland and maybe even Ga Tech.
You would still have two games to add ooc marquee matchups which is about on par to what major powers do anyway. 10 games severely limits the bums on the schedule which I'm getting tired of playing.
Plus it sucks knowing Osu won't be playing braska and MSU for another four years. That kills SOS and is unfair advantage to you guys and penn state who has to play us every year.
This post was edited by AlphaBuckeye06 17 months ago
Something Ohio State and Michigan fans agree on. Dump the cupcakes. It's painful to watch those games and doesn't help the BIG brand in any way. I want to see all BIG teams schedule top-notch OOC games and isolate teams like Notre Douche.
Especially because a cupcake schedule leads to national championships like last year's. (Not saying ND had a cupcake schedule, just that the NC outcome would be similar). I like seeing teams play quality opponents right out of the gate, so hopefully we can do that instead of replicating OSU's 2012-13 schedule.
I prefer 10 as well, if OSU is going to play cupcakes, I'd rather it be a conference cupcake than an OOC. Especially now with the new additions to the conference and not seeing some of the schools in the other division for a few years. The top teams in the B1G need to play on a yearly basis, for SOS, when the playoffs begin.
I have heard the B1G will realign and put OSU & um in the same division. Is there any truth to this? I have always thought it should've been that way from the start anyway.
10 conference games would leave zero room for marquee OOC games. If you start scheduling home and home OOC games with marquee teams, that leaves you with 6 home games at best. Programs won't last long with that. Unless, of course the NCAA expands the number of games to play during the regular season.
I guess I'm in the minority as someone who doesn't like this. I think things are fine the way they are, and I see little to no benefit to scheduling more conference games. You look at the Pac-12 model where they have 9 conference games, and I'm not sure I see the benefits. It's possible that the extra conference games has prevented one or two teams (Stanford? Oregon?) from making the MNC game.
Agree. Plus the bottom dwellers need the cupcakes to become bowl eligible.
Add Miami and GT and divide into two divisions of eight (East and West). Play all seven division opponents and two rotating cross division opponents each year (no fixed cross division rivals). You play everyone in the other division once in four years. Then the next four year cycle you reverse the home-away so that whoever you played at home the first four year cycle you play away the second four year cycle and vice versa. And you can alternate who gets the extra home game each year by division, i.e. East gets five home games in year 1 and West in year 2. Also, by staying at nine B10 games, every other year you can schedule a quality OOC opponent on the road and still end up with seven home games.
East: OSU, UM, PSU, MSU, RUT, UMD, PUR, IND
West: NEB, [MIA], WIS, IOWA, [GT], ILL, NW, MINN
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by MrWoodson 17 months ago
Yesterday, a couple tidbits leaked out of the B10 CFB coaches spring meetings. One, apparently the B10 schools have agreed to stop scheduling FCS opponents. Generally, I think this is a good move though it will probably make it harder for the lower tier programs to reach bowl eligibility. The thing that really struck me, however, is that Barry Alvarez is the one who leaked this news:
"The nonconference schedule in our league is ridiculous," Alvarez said on WIBA-AM in Madison, Wis. "It's not very appealing ... "So we've made an agreement that our future games will all be Division I schools. It will not be FCS schools."
Of all the schools to criticize B10 OOC scheduling, Wisconsin is the last one that should be doing it. Wisky has elevated itself up to become one of the better programs in the conference in recent years and yet it has consistently had one of the weakest OOS schedules of anyone.
The second tidbit, also leaked by Alvarez, is that the divisions appear to be headed in the direction of a simple East-West geographical alignment. The one remaining question seems to be whether Sparty can lobby its way out of the East to escape annual meetings with both OSU and UM:
Alvarez reiterated geography will play a critical role in realigning the divisions to incorporate Maryland and Rutgers, set to join the league in 2014. “You’ve got a couple schools on the bubble,” Alvarez said. “If you went straight geography, let’s start west: Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois and probably Purdue is the way it seems to break down. “I know Michigan State was lobbying in the West Division instead of the East.”
Sparty just being Sparty.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson 17 months ago
How else would they get to 5 wins if they were in the East?
I'll give Sparty credit for being logical. They have to know that they'll never sniff a division title if they have to play Michigan, OSU, and PSU every year, especially once PSU is off sanctions. Even if one or two of those powers is down, the remaining one will probably beat Sparty.
Here's a map of what the divisions will look like with Sparty in the West and Purdue in the East.
I'm fine with not scheduling FCS teams, though it makes it very tough when going to 9-10 conference games. Programs will need to have home games somehow, so I'm betting AD's will be fighting over MAC schools.
They seem to want to mimic Pac-12 scheduling, which I have a hard time believing is that good of a model.
Edit: Please report here
Seems to be a lot of trolls in the threads and its making it very annoying to read right now. Maybe the mods can direct them here til the n
This post was edited by buttesnake 17 months ago
How is it trolling to say if you guys have won your big games it would have helped Ohio State's strength of schedule? You pointed out our schedule was weak, which i agree with, and a big part of that was our win over Michigan wasn't valued from a national perspective. Had you guys beat Notre Dame or Alabama it would have helped our weak SOS. I am not antagonizing, I am pointing out the truth.
We could have been on a three year undefeated streak and it wouldn't have done much to redeem that pathetic schedule of yours. Gene Smith is a terribly sad excuse for an AD. He's the reason your schedule was easier than Indiana's, not us.
I agree. I would prefer a stronger schedule and you will hardly get an argument from an Ohio State fan for insulting Gene Smith. He's not very popular in Columbus. I admire Michigan for paying a top notch schedule, though. While you guys lost two big games, we had Wisconsin and Michigan State as our big games after U of M. The entire BIG needs to get better. I am optimistic for the playoff, now the incentive is there to schedule legitimate opponents. It's a win for all college football fans.
The B10 was down this year. Hopefully that will not be the case for long, but a school like OSU should be able to schedule 1-2 quality OOC opponents every year regardless of how things stack up in the B10. You used to do that when Tressel was there, but apparently someone at OSU decided to change things around. Here is OSU's schedule from last year along with the next two years:
2012: Miami (OH), UCF, Cal, UAB <----- all home games
2013: Buffalo, SDSU, @Cal, FAMU
2014: @Navy, Kent St, VT, Cincy
Not exactly a murderers' row.
One big game over us doesn't matter if the rest of your schedule is pathetic. FFS, you didn't play a single top-10 team all year. We played 4 - that's a difficult schedule. Your one game against us really wouldn't have made that much difference even if we were undefeated at that point too. A truly good undefeated team plays more than one difficult game all year.
As I said, I admire Michigan for playing a stronger schedule. You're arguing with yourself. I was at the Ohio State - Texas game, what an atmosphere, while Ohio State lost, it was a great national showcase game. That's what football fans want. No one gives a shit about UAB or UCF. For the record I didn't schedule Ohio State's opponents. The entire BIG will need to improve or WE all will continue to be the butt of jokes nationally.
My apologies if I come off as abrasive. The influx of Buckeye trolls here and on tBB has rendered me less-than-inclined to be charitable towards Buckeye posters that I'm not already familiar with.
Hopefully the B1G can pick it up so we don't need to schedule massive OOC games to pump our SOS, but at the very least, we can count on The Game to be a marquee matchup on our schedules every year.
I don't blame you. I wouldn't like Michigan fans on our boards, but this is a rare occasion where we have mutual interest. THis thread is about our league and the number of conference games we play. While I love to beat you guys on the football field, there is no reason for harassment or being an asshole on here. I am not here to make trouble.
Oh and the only reason i'm here is that this thread popped up on our front-row message board. I was excited to find out the BIG is making pre-emptive moves again. I didn't even realize at first it was your board. Other than a mod with a hair trigger, you guys have good discussions over here. Thumbs up to you guys.
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