In partnership with CBSSports.com
Online Now 94
Online now 413 Record: 7264 (3/12/2012)
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
According to Mike Farrell, Jalen Tabor has a top 5 (in order) of Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Maryland, and Auburn.
Not suprising that Michigan is not on the list. Not really a big deal with Webb and Westphal having serious interest in Michigan and Peppers really liking us as well.
Sounds like it would actually be surprising if Webb and Westphal end up anywhere else, and we don't have a huge need at CB. Take those two and then obviously still pursue Peppers (especially if he's better as a S in college). If we can land those three, holy crap.
I agree holy crap. I can't wait to see where the sites rank Webb. People keep saying he is one of the best players in the country.
I was reading the Tremendous blog the other day and they were talking about Westphal playing Safety or LB. Do you know anything about that?
I had never heard that - I've always had him pencilled in as a CB. He's only 6'0 180 - even if he grows 2 inches, CB still would make sense. Maybe he could slide to S (he and Peppers could be two hybrid players). Definitely not LB - size, not sure where they're getting that from.
As for Webb, I think he'll shoot up the radar when people evaluate him as a CB. He would have been a low-mid four star WR, but I think he's a high four star CB. Way early guesstimate would be 50-75 range.
That's what i thought on Westphal as well. I wonder if Tremendous just made a mistake and their evaluation of Westphal was meant for another player.
I guess it would make sense for Peppers (he's already 6'1 200 and growing), but I don't know how you could get those two mixed up
Beats me . Just threw me off when i saw them talking about Westphal as a LB.
I think it would be better if you get someone with the athletic ability of Kizer to just put him in the shotgun.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
Really like Frank C's posts on the past couple pages. The future of offense in football (both NFL and CFB) is a shotgun-based, pass-heavy attack that revolves around a versatile, athletic QB. Kizer fits that mold really well imo, certainly better than Stewart does.
My question to you on this is how do you fit power running attack into that? That is what Hoke wants as far as a running game goes.
Personally i see a more hybrid style offense where the passing downs are more shot gun but you take a very high percentage of 1st and 2nd down from under center.
I don't know if that holds true to college football. Alabama and LSU didn't wow with their aerial attacks, and they were the two most dominant teams in college. I think a good defense can stop a good offense in college. However, in the NFL, I feel that a good offense will trump a good defense.
I think you've presented a false choice here. Alabama and LSU were the best teams last year because they had dominant defenses, neither offense was at all special. But there's nothing mutually exclusive about having a dominant defense AND a dominant offense...imagine how much better of a team Alabama would be if it had had Oregon or Oklahoma State's offense?
I suppose the counterargument would be that if you have an offense that scores too quickly, then your defense won't get rest and will therefore be more tired and therefore less dominant...but it seems to me that if the bottom-line object is winning, it is better to have a team composed of elite defense + elite offense than elite defense + good or average offense or vice versa. A team comprised of Oregon's offense and Alabama's defense would probably give up more points than Alabama 2011-12 did, but it would probably also win more games and win them by a larger margin than Alabama 2011-12 did.
Tell that to Andrew Luck last years #1 pick or Matt Barkley more than likely this years #1 pick.
Luck is an athlete not just a QB
4.67 40 yard dash
36 inch vertical
10'4" Broad Jump
3-Cone Drill 6.88
Visit / Subscribe to The Cardinal Channel: http://youtube.ie/stanfordathletics
For more information visit http://gostanford.com
Like us on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Cardinal-Channel/235082623196055
Andrew Luck snags a throw in the Stanford vs. UCLA game on October 1, 2011
I agree with that I'm saying CFB is not going to a pass heavy offense. There are still teams in the nfl that aren't pass happy. The teams that are pass happy in the NFL are the ones without solid running games or a qb like our man Brady
Too many complexities!
any news on how Bryan Mone visit went?
Didn't Texas have a power running attack with Colt Mccoy in the shotgun?
This post was edited by msucantmakebcs 21 months ago
Not really. Texas run game was fairly weak when Colt was there.
How about Cedric Benson and Vince Young?
I can't really remember what Texas ran at that time. But i think it might of been more read option but i could be wrong. Hoke wants to run the I formation with a fullback. Can't do that from the shotgun.
That's what I remember. Jamaal Charles was their primary back and he was (is) a big home-run threat - had a hell of a year in '07, but they were never what I considered a power running team.In 2008, McCoy was the leading rusher - nobody else had 100 carries nor averaged 5 ypc.
Just going off of what I have seen from watching the Packers, although I haven't studied Borges' or Hokes' offenses:
You want to be able to establish the run game in order to be able to run the play action. A power running game is essential when you want to get those 3rd and shorts or in the 4th quarter when you're running out the clock. The past few years in GB have been annoying because they really haven't had a power running game, so we usually had to throw on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1. They couldn't run in the 4th and opponents usually knew that we were going to pass the ball because our running game sucked. You don't need to run the ball 40% of the time but if you have a back like Fitz or possibly Deveon Smith than the guys on the otherside will at least be thinking about the running game and if the QB is struggling you can switch it up a little. If you have an average team that is always in the shotgun (UH, UH, TT) then they'll get demolished by great teams because there is little threat of the running game and the plays are always gonna be predictable.
Any update on the Bryan Mone visit?
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports