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But what if Michigan recruits heavily and Lawrence Marshall commits before Hand? We can only take so many DE/DT... gaining Hand and losing Marshall with the risk of losing both is a higher reward than gaining Marshall and losing Hand. Risk versus reward and at this position, we are comfortable enough to take high risks. We only have so many spots this year...
I am also hearing (from another board) for WR, the first 3 that commit will be the 3 that play. So with Harris already on board, if Ways and Williams commit, we won't take Scott even if he wants to come later.
This post was edited by Michigan_Fan 12 months ago
If this class expands by one or two players (which it should given normal attrition and kids who don't get a fifth year) I'd be surprised if they weren't willing to take a fourth receiver so long as it was a smaller slot type guy. In other words, I think when all is said and done, if Ways and Williams join Harris, I think there's a pretty good chance the staff would accept a commitment from Scott or Holmes. Of course, I have zero inside information and I am basing that opinion on absolutely nothing.
We have filled almost all our need over the last few classes except receiver, and harris kinda fulfilled a big need there.at thus point, I think we are able to go after the top guys and let the chips fall where they fall.
Also, ansky is right, if we add players late, then we can add top players at whichever position a kid wants to commit too.
What we had tbe last few classes was hokes absolute need to get good bodies in to fill the deficits of depth.
Let's use the Sparty argument. Marshall is probably looking at all the DE we have taken recently versus Sparty, and may see an opportunity for more immediate playing time. I am sure that is what MD is telling him.
Mich Alum '92 & '94.
Personally, people are worrying way to much on this one. There are many elite recruits that want to see Michigan, and will not be out here till summer or OVs in the fall. We could land 1 or more of these types. I think the coaches feel confident with Hand, Peppers, and McDowell, which is why they are not pursuing others i.e. Marshall.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
Speaking of McDowell, I thought this was kind of interesting, Tom Luginbill of ESPN's analysis of Malik McDowell from the ESPN Recruiting chat yesterday (lots of good questions answered regarding targets like Artavis Scott, Jamarco Jones, and Jabrill Peppers for anyone curious: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post/_/id/36882/espn-150-player-rankings-chat ):
"[McDowell] is really, really hard to evaluate. Film is bad, limited reps on defense, comp is avg. Right now he is an intriuging guy with size, strength and quickness for his size, but is also very raw and lacks a consistent motor. Off several looks he appears to be an OL candidate, but then will flash some nice stuff on defense. We are always tracking this kid as he is very intriguing. I think others have him high off measurables and how he looks as opposed to actually watching him."
^Very weird to me, the film I've seen of McDowell (admittedly highlight film) has been tremendous. I don't typically take Luginbill or ESPN Recruiting that seriously to begin with, though. Even in that case, he primarily bashes and yet McDowell is listed as a top 70 player, doesn't make much sense. Part of the reason why I take 247 and Rivals most seriously.
Malik will rock at the next level. I trust the schools offering him i.e. Michigan, Alabama, USC, etc., than anyone else. The coaches are the best at evaluating talent, or they would not be coaches at big time schools.
This post was edited by UMRSB 12 months ago
Lets not even bring sparty up. We aren't recruiting him hard for whatever reason and he is a state lean. Lets concentrate elsewhere.
He could also take a lot of time and effort like william campbell.
Michigan State has pitched early playing time to Marshall, as they should. It's a good selling point.
By that same token in response to Kyle, Michigan has been recruiting Marshall pretty hard too. It may be tailing off just a bit recently.
This post was edited by Steve Lorenz 12 months ago
Luginbill's an idiot. Next thing, you'll be telling us what Mel Kiper thinks.
I agree, steve, I just don't see him in our class.
1. The coaches can be honest with Marshall and tell him that he's their second choice.
2. Losing both Hand and Marshall is worse than losing just Hand but having Marshall.
3. IMO, (as things stand now) we will take Scott no matter what simply because of George Campbell who can be a transcendent talent. The coaches might eventually issue an ultimatum to Scott but I doubt it since the coaches are trying to develop strong bonds in Florida.
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Yup. Letting Scott go when the chances with him look like they definitely exist would be a huge mistake. I don't think they'd do that.
He appears to be an OL candidate? That's weird considering he has Michigan, OSU, Bama, LSU, and USC offers for DL, where he's an absolute freak because of his huge size and great athleticism. I just can't take ESPN recruiting seriously.
Does anyone? They always come in with a crazy list that just doesn't coincide with the others. At least scout, rivals and 247 share commin characteristics.
Agreed. Waste of time. I feel like lately their rankings are different just to be different. It is the same as when they try to "make" the news, rather than report.
Haven't heard much about him in a while since he was going to visit late last year I believe but is there any chance that Lattimore visits this year? I know he's an Ohio lean but you never know once he gets on campus. I'd like to see the nutters facial expression if he was in our class
If the coaches told Scott he has a spot, no need for ultimatums. Again, the coaches seem confident with Hand. They are getting that vibe from somewhere/someone.
WC had RR for a coach .... GM would not have this issue of under-development.
Also, WC was forced into action. The Michigan DL is already very deep and if MM were not ready, he'd have time to come along at his own pace. But, yeah, the coaching is far better now than it was for WC's early years.
Stating that McDowell may be a better OL prospect than a DL is fair. He is also a huge boom or bust candidate. But his potential is off the charts. I trust Hoke to develop DL talent. If he would have had Campbell for 4 years, I feel confident his career at Michigan would've been better.
McDowell at worst will be a 3-4 sack a year player. His athleticism and strength combo is enough alone to allow him to get consistent pressure on the QB. If he improves his technique he'll be All-B1G with ease.
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