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Darius West was told by our staff that they are only taking one cornerback and one safety...this concerns me because I think our secondary still is in need of some elite players...and taking just 2 secondary players in this cycle would be a mistake IMO
Someone who accompanies Kwon on all of his recruiting trips and talks to him daily provides Bucknuts with updates. He does have a leader and it is not OSU. I don't think many people (at least VIP posters) think he is anything near a lock.
I find this very hard to believe. And troubling if true. CB and WR are our weakest positions. They will be making a big mistake if they take just one CB.
That is exactly how I feel. I do not think this will end up being true in the end. I can see taking one safety with the addition of Dymonte last year and Delano Hill and Channing Stribling can both play safety if needed, although I like Channing a lot as a cornerback. But only taking one cornerback would be a mistake. We need at least one ELITE cornerback, but we need more than 1 regardless if they are elite or not.
Maybe it's just a misunderstanding on West's part.
I know how much everyone hates top-15s, but Shai McKenzie just tweeted out his, not in order.
ShaiMckenzie @ShaiMcKenzie_ 26s
My top 15 GA, Tenn, V Tech, FSU, Pitt, OU, GT, Mich, Mich St., WVU, UNC, Vandy, Wisc, Arkansas, SC
This post was edited by inuyesta 13 months ago
That could be, I just think it is weird because he was told this on his visit. It wasn't over the phone or on the computer where a misunderstanding could be much more likely. It was in person and told to him by our very own coaching staff.
Maybe it means the coaches are very confident in in the DBs we have and this is a good thing? We do have potentially 3 more years of Blake Countess and brought in a host of DBs last year...
idk, I just think you have to capitalize when you're in on as much top DB talent as we are this year. Like, say we get a commitment from Parrker Westphal sometime soon...are we really going to tell a guy like Jabrill Peppers or Adoree' Jackson not to bother visiting or taking an official, we're full? I hope not.
I think it benefits us that many of the guys we are recruiting are very versatile. Some could consider Westphal a linebacker (if I recall), Peppers a wide receiver, etc. The coaches could continue to recruit these elite players as athletes.
I think the coaches are approaching this as if they've only got 16 open spots. Every spot that opens up after 16 will most likely be focused on DBs (or some other position of extreme need, although I can't think of any as weak as DB).
It's not a bad recruiting tool. It's perfectly legit to say "We've only got X number of spots, so here's what we're looking at as of right now." Then, when the situation inevitably changes later, we can reassess and address issues of need with the subsequent extra spots.
Basically, what we did with OL recruiting last year.
But if Miller starts moving away from OSU, than OSU may put more pressure or emphasis on Berger?
I don't think it'd change - OSU wants top-flight LBs, but they're going to recruit Booker, McMillan, Berger, Garrett, and the other top tier at the same rate, regardless. If this was a situation where McMillan and Berger were the only guys in OSU's top tier, it might be a different issue.
Also, I think Urban Meyer has a major case of hubris when it comes to recruiting at Ohio - if he misses on a very good in-state prospect, he believes he can replace them with someone as good or better from out-of-state. Ultimately, whether or not he can actually do that has yet to be seen. Personally, I'd like nothing more than for Dymonte, Gedeon, McCray, Butt, and Taco to end up infinitely better than Bell, Mitchell, Johnson, Baugh and Lewis.
Do you honestly believe Buckeye fans when they say that Meyer has Kyle Berger on the backburner? Hint......he's not. According the interview that Berger did with Scout, Meyer spent 45 minutes of one on one time with him during his visit last weekend trying to sell him on being a Buckeye. That's not something a head coach does with a recruit who is supposedly on the backburner.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MaizeBlue321726 13 months ago
IMO that has more to do with Clifton Garrett trending away from OSU. McMillan is a MLB, Berger is an OLB, so their recruiting isn't tied together the same way Garrett (recruited by some at MLB, others at OLB, OSU is looking at him as an OLB according to 11W), Berger and Booker's is. I still believe 11w that as OLB's go, OSU's list is: 1a) Garrett 1b) Booker, 2) Berger
If Garrett goes elsewhere -- looks like he's infatuated with the SEC the same way Treadwell was (4 of the top 5 schools Garrett's currently looking at are SEC schools, none are Midwestern/B1G) -- Berger becomes crucial to OSU. Just my 2 cents.
This post was edited by dukeluke 13 months ago
I think this is a perfect assessment of it. Considering Berger wants to decide before Garrett though, it'll be interesting to see what happens. As far as I know, Berger is Michigan's #1 target for their remaining LB spot, and I think they're going after him as hard as possible due to his professed desire to decide early.
I don't think it's that bad. We were playing with our # 2 and # 3 CBs for the majority of the season and we did take 6 DBs last year.
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It's not entirely inaccurate, but there are caveats abound. For instance, there's no way Michigan would turn down Adoree Jackson if Jabrill Peppers committed to Michigan (example). This class is going to end up being almost a "best player available" type class with relative boundaries set at each position (3 being the most at WR, for example).
All DBs are not created equal. Some are destined for S. And even among CBs, some are more nickel guys while others are (hopefully) excellent boundary corners. We desperately need bigger, faster, more physical boundary corners. Countess might develop into one, but his injury set him back. Let's hope he picks up this fall right where he left off. After him, we have Ramon Taylor and a bunch of freshmen who have yet to see the field, but if we ever want an elite secondary like Alabama and LSU have we are going to need bigger CBs. If we can get two of the elite CBs on our hit list for 2014, we should say a prayer of thanks to God and grab them before they change their minds (not necessarily in that order)
Booker is the only one Buckeyes consider a lock but its widely believed he could ultimately outgrow the position.
Time and change will surely (truly) show
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I feel like we have the momentum with Berger. He visited for the Indiana game, liked it enough to come back for the spring practice, and was impressed at the practice. However, Ohio State was in on him first (I think they were his first big offer?), and I assumed he grew up a fan of them (goes to St. Ignatius). I think they'll always be at or near the top for him, no matter where he is on their "pecking order" or how heavily they are recruiting him.
Oh good, another DE, exactly what OSU needs!
But yeah, I highly doubt Booker goes anywhere else - huge upset if he somehow does, but I haven't even heard of him taking visits anywhere else.
Keep in mind, Jake Ryan went to St. Ignatius too, and look how he's done so far. Based on everything we've seen about Berger, I have to believe that Ryan's career so far (both academically and athletically) is exactly what Berger's looking for (minus the ACL injury, of course).
I agree...my ideal class would have two corners and one safety. Or the best three possible.
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