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The dfference is theirs is what they actually are expecting and ours is a wishlist.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
the only thing they have a shot at is weiners and ballsacks
They're "journalists" and you're a fan, though.
Let's try this again. I went over the mock class and here's the breakdown:
4 players (Campbell, M. Jones, Trout, Webb) are committed.
5 players (Berger, Booker, Garrett, Lattimore, McMillan) are strong Ohio leans.
3 players (Blanding, J. Jones, Nicholson) are Ohio leans. I included Nicholson because Gateway has sent a number of good players to Ohio.
4 players (Drake Harris, Malik McDowell, Jabrill Peppers, DeShaun Watson) have Ohio in the top group. Even though Watson is committed to Clemson, it's not a rock solid commitment.
I don't know about 3 of them (Autry, Holmes, R. Johnson).
Jalen Hurd is the only one that seems unrealistic.
Hence, that version of the mock class is not unrealistic. Optimistic? Absolutely. But not unrealistic.
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lol yik, I was being ironic
Berger and McMillan are not "strong leans" and Nicholson is not a lean.
McMillan has Clemson and OSU "just about tied" at the top and Berger isn't being pursued by OSU as strongly so it seems like he's not high on their wish list, which would push him away (seems a lot like McCray IMO).
Nicholson called Michigan his leader not too long ago.
I would include Garrett under "lean," not "strong lean"
Your "strong leans" are overstated. For example, McMillan is probably barely a lean at all and is trending in the wrong direction:
I also don't see Blanding or Nicholson as leans. OSU is among the leaders, but "lean" is too strong. If you make those adjustments and then realize they will be lucky to get one of the names you have listed under "top group", 11W's list is very optimistic.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 17 months ago
IMO, Nicholson has Michigan over Ohio because Meyer has not made him a priority. Again, Gateway sends a lot of good kids to Ohio.
If Ohio wants Berger and makes him a priority (soon), Meyer will get Berger.
I just don't see Sweeney/Clemson beating Meyer/Ohio for McMillan but I can reclassify him under the "has Ohio in the top group" label.
Even with the adjustments, my point stands: that version of the mock class is not unrealistic.
Optimistic? Absolutely. But not unrealistic.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Frank C 17 months ago
Any kid with Clemson in their top group not from the state of South Carolina raises a huge red flag imo. On paper OSU > Clemson. Unless you're factoring in extracurricular benefits. Some of those kids are simply not going to play BIG TEN football. I'd put Clifton Garrett at the top of that list.
Gateway is like Cass Tech in Michigan or Glennville in Ohio. A lot more bust than boom. Gimme football players, not athletes who look good in shorts.
Not saying Nicholson won't be a player, UM coaches obviously think so, but I'm not losing sleep over missing out on a recruit from any 3 of those schools.
This post was edited by Norbit 17 months ago
Not sure what you mean by unrealistic, then. If you assigned odds to each name, OSU will probably miss on about half outside of the players already committed. To me, that makes it more of a target or wish list and nowhere near a likely to land list. So I guess it's semantics.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson 17 months ago
Dabo is a hell of a recruiter. If they have a good season, they could easily land McMillan.
Has Clemson had some sketchy recruitments? Yes, but Dabo is one of the top recruiters in college football and has one of the better staffs in all of college football. That isn't including the fact that Clemson is a pretty good team and is likely to make a BCS bowl again next year.
That's just not accurate. McMillan is from Georgia and I bet Clemson signs more players from Georgia than OSU most years. You guys are building OSU into some irresistible destination it's not for the vast majority of HS kids from the South.
i think you are viewing this pretty level headed, i would add though since you mentioned not knowing much about Hurds recruitment, that he has mentioned in the past that OSU was his favorite. i do not believe it is that black and white now though as most analysts seem to believe that it is a two team battle with OSU and Florida
Its ok we already pulled the top LB in the state of Ohio.
Gateway has sent exactly two players to Ohio State, both of whom were in the same class, and neither of which accomplished anything at all in college (Dorian Bell flamed out because he was a pothead, and Corey Brown (not the "Philly" one) is a career backup).
Two players. That's it.
I dont understand why laugh? i wasnt saying OSU lands him just relaying information. certainly not trying to say anything to cause a war here. this is my favorite thread on your board in which i read it as much as i read any Bucknuts topic. its realistic to believe that on this particular topic i would have more info. i was just trying to share it
also Ferns is widely regarded as the number 2 LB in Ohio. certainly nothing to scoff at at all since he is a fantastic get and from all reports seems like a really great kid as well. that said Booker is at this point generally accepted by most as the best LB in Ohio
Maybe on BN, but Rivals would disagree.
really? i didnt know that. i look at those sites sometimes but not very frequently. out of curiosity if you have the info on you how do the other sites rank the LBs in ohio.
ill understand if you want me to look for myself but i ask since you mentioned it
Actually, there are two sets of rankings released so far. He's above Booker in the Rivals rankings and below him here - and let's not go crazy with 247's rankings. They currently have Verdontae Wilkinson above Ferns whose best offers are Illinois and Kentucky (so even if he might be a solid player, coaches around the country clearly prefer Ferns). Not saying Ferns is better, but it's not as clear cut or "generally accepted" as you may choose to believe.
Scout has Ferns above Booker as well
You're right - didn't see the national rankings, just the position rankings. Booker is 110 and Ferns is 76 there.
thanks for the info and perspective i can see that the better way of stating my earlier comment would have been that 247 views Booker more highly rather than making a generalization
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