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Yes, but where were they ranked? Top for the position? Top-3? Top-5? No one really knows.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
That doesn't indicate where they are on our board. The only thing that would indicate that is how hard we were recruiting them as opposed to other players.
You stated it clearly before as well...
"But I will make this absolutely clear. If Michigan wants to prevent Ohio dominance, then Michigan has to win the 2013 B1G Championship (even if it means beating Ohio twice)."
But now it's unlikely that either dominates the other....
Your "plausible" scenarios both were centered around the notion that Ohio is going to go undefeated next year. That's a pretty big leap of faith there. Is Meyer in your head?
This post was edited by Clarkw267 14 months ago
No wonder Damien said the "Ohio visit was definitely the best visit I've been on."
He was probably having the time of his life watching Tyler Zeller and Victor Oladipo shred Ohio's defense.
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MSU insecurity riding high about now with D. Harris ....
"I bet McGrath and Speight will sway Drake's thinking
I'll go as far as to say that if Michigan still feels they have a shot with Harris, then the staff is wasting their resources with the kid and they could go after other highly-regarded WR targets. Beyond the connection of being in the same state as the school, the kid's never been interested in that school and if his dad had any influence on him at all in regards to going there, it would have shown up long ago. Michigan took a few lightly-regarded WRs in this class and really only brought in Darboh the class before(Chesson wasn't that big of a prospect). They could get a big time WR elsewhere for the 2014 class and it doesn't have to be Harris. But if they want to spend their time on him then by all means, try, try again."
This post was edited by UMRSB 14 months ago
Westphal was offered a month ahead of Webb so it stands to reason that Webb wasn't atop the coaches' board.
Correct. So .... if Webb was a top-3, and we land Parker W. (who could be #1), does anyone really care? Trying to put things into perspective.
Am I the one being paid 2.5 million a year as Head Coach of Michigan Football or is that Brady Hoke?
My life goes on regardless of what happens in The Game. I'm not judged by the outcome of The Game so seems like a stupid question to ask me, no?
But as a Michigan alum and fan, Urban Meyer as Head Coach of Ohio concerns me because:
1. he's a better recruiter than Tressel
2. he's a more accomplished coach than Tressel.
Nevermind that Tressel took over a 8-4 Ohio team and went 7-6 in his first season as Ohio HC while Urban Meyer took over a 6-7 Ohio team and went 12-0 in his first season.
I'm just excited that the Michigan-Ohio rivalry might just surpass the Red River Rivalry and the Iron Bowl as the premier rivalry in college football.
I hope we can make the newly christened B1G the Big 2 and Little 10/12 again. And I hope Michigan wins more than it loses.
Great points. People are missing the Meyer factor influence.
I'll play devil's advocate and just say that the level of concern should be somewhere between the two extremes being talked about.
A lot of this will go away if Michigan has a great season in 2013 and can beat Ohio State.
If this isn't enough to get banned, I don't know what is.
Stealing Sparty's recruits and owning them on the field since 1898
Pretty soon you will be half a star. Caretaker is that you?
Every OSU buckeye fan out there
He has premium on Bucknuts. No way he is a Michigan fan.
Right now the best way to recover from losing two good instate players is to land two out of state guys who are just as good or better (Westphal comes to mind immediately). However, Hoke can't let it become a pattern, or his job will get a hell of a lot harder than it already is.
Your bucknut brethren
E-Tough guy here.
11 National Titles | 42 Conference Titles | 3 Heisman Winners | 78 All-Americans | 37 College Hall of Fame Members
Of course it's not a good thing to miss on kids we offered, especially in-state, but you can't get everyone you offer. Or else we would have 100 commits per year.
We are still in good shape for some elite talent, and we have a small class to fill.
I'm pretty sure our coaches aren't freaking out about not getting Webb and Marshall. A good year in 2013 will be key, and beating OSU would be helpful. Although, I'm not ready to say they are going to dominate us for the next decade if for some reason we can't get the W.
First post guys....long time lurker. Although I do not believe in spinning negatives into positives, I am only slightly concerned. OSU can only take so many each year. We will get our fair share out of Michigan, Ohio and the rest of the Midwest. Coaches are doing well in Illinois last few years. As long as we continue to fill needs we will be fine and coaches know what their needs and priorities are. We do need a playmaker outside, but don't forget Darboh last year and Funchess will only get better. Jones is vastly underrated in 2013 and York may surprise as well. Plus, tO$U fans are already counting their championships after probably the least impressive 12-0 season in history. Could have easily had 4 losses. Certainly not dominating and they had plenty of talent, much moreso than RR left us. Our coaches have rebuilt the lines which RR left in deplorable shape. I am glad tO$U fans are so confident, reminds me of the Cooper years. Man those were sweet. I was a student at OSU then (long story, dad wouldn't write check to UM if it would have saved his life). I had a great time there, but never swayed in my love for UM. I went to UM game at age 7 and loved ever since. 2 of my 3 kids like the good guys and one lives in Ann Arbor now after graduating last year from EMU.....Go Blue!!!!
Welcome to the board Dmoney
Thank you......enjoy the conversation that takes place here. Certainly recruiting is the lifeblood of any program, but I think finding players that fill needs and fit system is more important. You can go to any MAC School and find players that the big boys missed on or passed over. Both Superbowl QB's were not on anybody's radar and Kapernick is an absolute freak. Stars mean little once they put the pads on and step between the lines.
I would have loved to go to UM, several of my friends played baseball there. One of our good friends sons will be pitching there in 2014. My son will attend basketball camp there with his high school team this fall (good athlete, but DII caliber). I have met both Brady Hoke and John Beilein and both are great men that any parent would be thrilled to have coach their son.
My cousin's son is a walk on OL for OSU and they LOVE Urbs. I have never liked him since his days at BGSU. He will be a force for sure, but his program will implode. Look how he left Florida, Utah and BGSU. He won big a few years at each, primarily with others recruits. Had big recruiting classes (at Florida) and all 3 programs were a mess when he left. No doubt he will win many games, but I also think tOSU fans really do not realize how hard it is to win a NC. Between UM and tOSU, we have all of 2 in last 45 years. If we can get 2 between us in next 10 that would be good.
I sincerely believe that UM will prevail their fair share long term and we will not see a 10 year dominance by either program. You will never have to apologize for either of our major sports head coaches or the way the University handles its business. Go Blue....
Btw, good friend of mine coaches Mark Donnall and he will fit well into Beilein's system. My son's team played them last year as well and again this Summer. Great kid and great family. Toledo area sending 4 kids to Big 10 this year and he is a solid get.
I agree all the rankings are worthless now. Once these kids sign with a school they all become 2* freshmen and have to prove themselves. On a side note I hear PeeWee is taking the S&C seriously. He is now down to 310lbs and looking good. I expect big things from him this year.
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