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you're something else! Love how I asked an honest question and you label it as trolling. You have to have the personality of a brick wall. I'm happy with where ND is at and I like what the future looks like, but thanks for the concern. Sorry to the rest of the Michigan fans. I think the rest of you guys are great posters and very knowledgeable about the game you love and recruiting.
Solid answer, but with the way recruiting has been sped up I expect a lot more decommits than say 5-10 years ago. Just seems like you are limiting your options and then are left at the alter with your plan D or F as opposed to B or C. So staying in contact with Pocic behind closed doors is fine, but bringing a kid in for an actual visit is misleading?
Fwiw, I think you can eff off also.
Sorry but I DV this not reading it correctly. I went back and UV'd 5 others by you.
To Star. I do appreciate your opinion here on many things but to come over here and try to get into arguments for no legitimate reason is just trolling. Why not just keep it to yourself or go over to the ND board.
This post was edited by pappy121 20 months ago
Essentially yes. The coaches have a no visit policy for the players. Thus for it to be a two way street, once a position is closed they don't allow a player from that said position to visit UM. The coaches don't have a rule against players still listening to coaches other than UM, the only expectation is for them to honor their commitment. Again it goes both ways, the coaches will stay in contact with other players (evident by the Khalil Rogers rumors that were occurring this summer). It's not misleading because the coaches are upfront with all parties and its just good practice. Decommitments happen to all schools, not just ones with a no visit policy. I agree it may turn a kid off being told not to visit and then trying to back in once a spot opens up. But you also have to consider that some understand the business and thus are still open to UM because of our prestige like you see with Tunsil and The Rodgers kid in Maryland/VA. The plan " c and d" as you phrase it is more a testament to so many kids being committed to other schools and 8 times out of 10 will honor their commitment. ND was burned at the alter big time last season and I don't recall any top tier guys taking their spots, it's just part of the business b.
This post was edited by Luger 20 months ago
Obvious troll was obvious
Not in question per se; just that he was told by a reporter for Scout that Michigan has offered. Usually he'd find out from the M coaches or his own coaches.
Did Auburn just take a JUCO RB? Does anyone think that says anything about their chances with Green?
Yea they think he is going to Miami because they are in the mix!
Dont know why they are so confident but Vols fans have Green as a silent
I think he silent committed to Mich and was just looking for a free official beach visit.
Steve Lorenz @TremendousUM
#SHOCKING RT @Clemson247 Robert Nkemdiche de-commits from Clemson
Michigan lock, obv
Ray Charles saw this coming from his grave.
LOL @ Dabo. He's such a clown. Chad Morris saved his sorry ass.
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Interesting SI article on the struggles USC is having this year. Hard to understand why so many elite prospects, who can go anywhere and play for anyone, continue to put their trust in Lane Kiffin.
I think people are taking Stars question wrong. In my opinion, I would rather the coaches didn't actually close a position and therefore would continue to let top prospects visit. What I mean is I would rather the coaches take another LB or OL like O'Daniel or Pocic rather than thinking we have to have 3 WRs in this class and end up with a second tier player at WR. With 85 scholarships there is not some set number of guys you have to have at each postion. There is some wiggle room for the coaches to work with.
This post was edited by WillyWolverine 20 months ago
Also, I hope Star continues to post on this board and realizes that not all of us Michigan fans think he is a troll. Just because a fan of a rival questions something our coaching staff or team is doing does not mean they are a troll.
If he was paid (and I'm not suggesting he was or wasn't), would he have to give the money back?
Personally I don't think it's so hard to understand. What is it about the opportunity for an 18 year old to go play football in LA, be pampered like an NFL player, play for a cool young coach, and join talent in the country is hard to understand? You have to remember, there's no NFL team in LA, there's just USC. But I do agree Lane Kiffin, while a great recruiter, is the most overrated coach in all of football at any major level.
I can see it now .. Dooley and Clempsin (i know i know) goin to the NCAA and telling them 'Hey guys.. Robert whatshisface took $250,000 from us in order to secure his commitment to us, and has since renigged on the deal.. can you step in please?'
I hope he commits and decommits from at least 4 more schools.. he could be set for life before ever playing a single meaningful game.
This post was edited by Saintlex 20 months ago
Unless the player is cant miss, it makes little sense to overload on position just to secure a commitment from a top rated player. In the case of LB, specifically WLB, look at who is on the roster in Morgan, Ross, ringer, Poole, and now Gedeon. Same with OL, the coaches are content with 4 but wouldn't mind 5. The coaches like what the see at tackle currently on the roster, thus they can afford taking LTT as the only true tackle with Bosch, and Fox as potentials and pursuing tackles in the 14 class. But bigger than that we have depth issues in the secondary, at WR and TE that had to be addressed. I would loved to have Pocic but if it meant sacrificing a position not met then I'm with the coaches. If you over load positions you end up with a roster with holes. Just having bodies to fill up the 85 is not the goal, thus they wont take any 3 WRs just to have WRs. The accept the guys they want, you saw that when they told cameron walker not to visit but then accepted commitments from stribling, ross, and hopefully mcquay. The coaches want to balance talent across all positions and match a Off and Def scheme they envision, thus some guys are turned away once a position is full.
I'm not talking about overloading a position. Do you honestly think coaches say ok we need x number of scholarship OL no more and no less? I don't. I think there is a range they would like to have. I don't think taking 1 extra guy in a class is going to hurt anything. Obviously you can't keep taking extra guys at the same position over and over.
What it comes down to for me is I would rather have that extra OL, LB, etc.... that has a chance to win a starting job over another very good player rather than take a guy at a positoin of "need" that is just going to be a bench guy for 4 years.
Obviously some guys will end up being bench players - it's inevitable - but I don't think the coaches are recruiting anyone with that in mind. My assumption would be that the coaches believe all of their recruits will compete for a starting job.
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