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I dont think they will either.too small a class. but i was thinking that because if Shane can't redshirt this year, maybe he can next year if Gardner and Bellomy come back. But then that leaves you with a backup that didn't play at all last year cuz of a torn acl. Wilton Speight would be in too, he would probably need to redshirt leaving us with 2 red shirt QBs and a rusty Bellomy as a backup
"I like Michigan to take another step forward under Brady Hoke, even with the departure of all-world athlete Denard Robinson. Field general Devin Gardner showed he can fill the QB position admirably, and Hoke has been reeling in some deep recruiting classes for a couple of years now.
If pint-sized WR Jeremy Gallon returns for his senior season, he’ll be a primary target for Gardner. College football guru Phil Steele picked Michigan at the top of his list of teams to increase their win totals next season. I think he’s right on the money. It would be good for the Big Ten Conference if Michigan and Ohio State could duke it out for top dog once again."
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Easy to say it now, but it was my feeling then, needed a QB in the 2012 class... Guys didn't seem too keen on jumping to Michigan but only 6 offers went out for that class... Probably the ONLY beef I have with Hokes tenure so far and its not a huge issue
I'm really torn about this. I mean, how often do you see a team get down to their 3rd quarterback? Not very often. I guess I don't remember it ever happening as long as I've been watching Michigan football.
95/96 Dreisbach hurt--Griese in
97 Griese played all 12.
98/99 Brady/Henson alternated
2000 Henson hurt before season, Navarre started before Henson came back.
2001-2003 I want to say Navarre started every game during that time.
2004 Henne started every game
2005 Henne started every game
2006 Henne started every game
2007 Henne, Mallett
2010 Denard then Tate (You can count Gardner but that was nothing more than a message to Tate)
2011 Denard Gardner.
Looking at that, we got to our 2nd QB a couple times, and I think in any of those situations we would be screwed if we got down to the 3rd one either way. I'd like to see 1 QB per class also, but I can't necessarily say I blame the coaches for feeling comfortable with 3 scholarship QBs on the roster.
It's like how in soccer teams will always carry three goalkeepers even for something like a tournament with a max of 7 games. Most of the time, one goalkeeper will suffice, the reserves don't see the field. But then everyone can tell stories of teams having three goalkeepers injured and needing to call up a youth player or signing someone on short notice.
The impact of "unthinkable" (but very much possible) scenario is so big and terrible, you want to be prepared for it even if the likelihood of it occurring is fairly slim.
Yeah, hoke seems to want to be cautious with depth as well ( long snapper). I wouldn't be surprised to see to see us add a qb
Another thing we have going for us this year vs years past is that our new offensive system is designed to protect the qb. Devin won't be a running back that throws once in a while to keep the def honest like Denard was. He won't take near the punishment Denard took so I hope injuries won't be an issue.
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits. -- Mark Twain
If Taylor Martinez can throw from the pocket....I think we'll be alright.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
I am hoping two things happen to help keep Garnder healthy: 1) Lewan and Schofield keep his jersey clean, good chance at that 2) A strong running game pops up and Devin can hand the ball off a lot and this team and pound teams into submission... Both sound like what Hoke wants... Hoping the injury bug is done with guys in the 2 deep
I know Shane has potential but he is very very raw. If Devin goes down were in trouble, simple as that. Although unless Russell improved greatly from last year we were in trouble either way.
yeah...i would take shane over bellomy anyways if he was anything like last year. At least shane has the potential to get the ball out on a line...
Speed Kills—And on the football field it can turn an average defense into a great defense.
That’s the scenario the Michigan defense is facing this spring after two years of working with strength & conditioning coach, Aaron Wellman, and hauling in two top-five recruiting classes, said defensive coordinator, Greg Mattison.
“I’m seeing us play faster,” Mattison said. “I’m seeing us play a lot faster than I remember my first year here. I think that comes from a number of different things. One, I think our strength and conditioning program. You just don’t say in one year, ‘Ok, here you are.’ This is the third year he’s had these guys. And these kids ability to run and play harder and more consistent is a product of that strength program.
“I think the second thing is recruiting. We’ve tried since the day we got here to recruit athletic guys who could run. …When I’m standing back there watching, I kind of go, ‘Wow!’ This looks like we’re starting to get to the football better. And I think it’s a product of all those things. “
The Wolverine defense struggled against smaller, speedier teams like Air Force and Northwestern last season, who like to stretch the field offensively. While defense wasn’t out of place scheme wise, the lack of speed on defense caused the Wolverines’ to struggle on the edge, said Mattison.
“Teams are trying to get on the perimeter, that’s the deal,” Mattsion said. “You got to have guys that can run and get there. And they have to play fast. A lot of times your forty time it what your forty time is, but guys play a lot faster because they know what to do, they’re playing with good technique and those are all things we’ve been working on a lot this spring.”
Four Man Pass Rush
Mattison said he focused on stopping the run when he first came to Michigan. Now, with defensive line run stopping techniques installed, he is switching the focus defensively on getting a better four man pass rush.
“We’re working very, very hard,” Mattison said on improving the pass rush. “We’ve spent more time this spring working on pass rush techniques. Working on trying to get pressure with four man fronts then we’ve ever done.”
However, Mattison admitted the four man pass rush is not where he would like it to be.
“You’re definitely seeing improvement, but that’s a combination of us being not very good at all at pass rush on a four man front,” Mattison said “So we’re definitely taking steps. Whether it’s baby steps or the right steps—we’re going to be better at pass rush. That’s going to be a trademark of this defense before we’re all done. When that happens, who knows? I know one thing, those guys know and they believe it, in a passing situation if they’re blocked one-on-one, that they let the defense down.”
I want ‘Tacos’
Freshman defensive end, Taco Charlton, has been impressing many at spring camp with his size alone. At 6-foot-6, 265-pounds, Charlton should be finishing his senior year of high school, but enrolled early to get a head start on his Michigan career.
“Taco’s name has come up a lot, because if you’re 6’6, 265-pounds, and you should be going to your prom and you’re here practicing football at Michigan—you’re going to like that,” Mattsion said “You always want strong, tall, athletic guys. Well he’s 6’6, and very strong for his age and he was a great basketball player. So now you have to get the mental part (down).”
I'd take Bellomy over Morris at #2 on the Depth Chart.
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well, ive seen one of them play....so i can say I still made the right decision
I gotta disagree with you unless Morris just can't read a playbook. His confidence is exponentially better than Bellomy's and honestly I don't know if Bellomy will recover from that Nebraska game. I'd take Shane in a second over Bellomy. There is nothing Bellomy does better than Shane at this point.
1. Knows the offense/system A LOT better
2. Has in-game experience, no matter how you slice it
3. Is physically superior
4. His accuracy/progressions are probably as good as Morris at this point, if not better.
I said "does better"....knowing the offense is not something he does better. And his experience means nothing when you sh*t down your leg. Accuracy and progressions...really? Physically superior has nothing to do with anything, being physically superior does not make him better at anything. Shane Morris is better now and more college ready than Bellomy will ever be. The game is too fast for Bellomy, and Shane has already played against the best athletes in the country at the UA game. No matter how you slice it....Shane Morris is better than Bellomy at all aspects of QBing outside of knowing a playbook he hasn't seen and a taking a hit.
Can someone explain to me why we're having such a passionate Morris/Bellomy argument? Bellomy has a torn ACL. To me, whether he would have been a better backup to Gardner absent that injury doesn't seem to matter very much, he's not playing next season either way.
You're drinking the kool aid big time. I advise you to put it down.
Knowing the offense is something that's better or worse. Example, "I know the offense better than you".
Experience always means something. For all we know, that was the one time he will sh*t down his leg. At least the worst is behind him, thanks to the experience.
Being physically superior has a lot to do with everything. Tell me a 6'4" 180 pound QB wouldn't get sliced in half if he was hit hard by a 270lb DL. Bellomy is a relatively big kid and would be able to take some hits in the pocket. There's a reason QB's lift weights.
As far as I'm concerned, Shane is mediocre at best in his progressions. Every single video I've seen of him, his progressions look like they are the biggest flaw in his game. He rarely if ever throws to his secondary or third targets.
Don't use the UA game as an example for your case. Shane made a nice pass or two, but he did not look good that game. As a matter of fact, those college athletes you speak of looked... too fast for him...
Yessssssssssss Chesson and Darboh are the truth....i can't wait
Eh, every QB not named Christian Hackenberg sucked in the UA game (and even he didn't look all that great). Bottom line, if Devin goes down, we're screwed. Nothing was or is going to change that. Not Shane, not a healthy Russell Bellomy and not some mediocre 3 star would be RS freshman QB that we could've taken in the 2012 class.
I remember Shane taking a massive hit in that game....and he not only didn't get slice in half but popped right back up itchin' for more. This argument is stupid. Morris = 5* caliber and Bellomy = 3* caliber at best. We will see.
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