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Damn, he does look noticeably bigger. Talk about someone taking his opportunity and running with it.
does anyone remember where the picture of Chris Wormley and the other one with the players in it after strength and conditioning?
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, he looks the same to me in both pictures. Like basically an undewear model. I mean that in a good way.
Really? The change to his body looks pretty obvious to me.
I can see the change
Martison defense is very fast and guys looking great. Dymonte is fast, which we knew.
Chesson and darboh are lookung good borgess said. Darboh is making great catches and chesson ks tbe fastest straightline speed guy. Great to see both those kids showing up big time. To me it sounds like they will be a huge part of the offense this year.
Here is a photo of Frank Clark's pre/post winter training.
11 National Titles | 42 Conference Titles | 3 Heisman Winners | 78 All-Americans | 37 College Hall of Fame Members
These pictures are creepy.
Also, I never judge stuff on pictures like this. In picture A they were probably told to relax and look grim, while picture B was most likely taken immediately after a 2 hour lift where the photographer says, "Flex on three!"
Aree, those pics could just as easily been taken the same day.
regardless, I never thought coming out of high school that frank could hold 277 the way he does. Here's to hoping he put's it all together this year and becomes a beast!
Frank sure looks the part of a DE now... Hope he can bring it each and every down
Well boys, I haven't been around in a while but I like the premise of this thread. After finally getting around to reading it all, I'll summarize my thoughts. I apologize in advance since some of it may be repetitive to what has already been said.
On the OL:
Your tackles will be Lewan and Schofield. The talks of moving Schofield back to guard are, for lack of better terms, ridiculous. He is staying at RT, where he should be. That leaves the battle for the three inside positions. Starting with center, a lot of people are discounting Miller, and I think those people will be in for a big surprise. Miller came in small, but based on the new roster weights, he is in the 290s, which isn't terrible at all. Molk played at what, 297 his senior year? No, I am not saying that Miller will be the next Molk, but it has been said that he has that nasty mean streak that the coaches (and us fans) covet. He's got a couple years in the program now, and I think he is ready to step up. I don't see him being passed up this year by an underclassman. I think he will be a pleasant surprise to many. The guard positions are still up in the air, but it is a fair assumption that Kalis grabs one of them, presumably LG. So that leaves RG, which I think will be a battle between Braden and Bryant. Bryant is still coming off of injury, so don't put too much weight to him being left out of Hoke's comments from last week. He will be there to compete assuming that he has a full recovery. Braden has been talked up quite a bit, and that is promising. It should be a fun battle to watch between these two. Just the thought of those guys pulling and grading the road is exciting. I think it will take time for the interior linemen to gel and get game experience, because frankly none of them have much experience, but the talent is there for this line to become stout. The learning curve is the biggest question mark in my eyes.
On the WRs:
Gallon should have another good year, especially with Gardner at QB. They showed some real chemistry late in the year and can hopefully build on that. Dileo has plenty of game experience and is a clutch play maker. He may not be the flashiest player, but he gets it done. Who else is going to step up though? All indications are that Darboh has impressed, and if he can take it to the next level, we could be set. Reports on Chesson have been good as well so the depth is building. Reynolds got some playing time last year too so he and Jeremy Jackson could be serviceable. I would expect to see Dukes get some PT, specifically on endzone fades and jump balls. This position is still my area of greatest concern on offense. We need a true playmaker, that can take it to the house on any given play, but I don't know that we have that. The x-factor will be if the coaches try Norfleet and Hayes in the slot (which I think they should).
Gardner, need I say more?
This one will be interesting. Can Toussaint come back from his gruesome injury and be 100%? And will that happen by the first game? Physically, I am optimistic because he has already been reported to be ahead of schedule, but the mental challenge could be the biggest battle. After an injury like that, will he be hesitant? That happens a lot, and it is somewhat understandable. I broke my ankle a few years ago and I'd now be hesitant to get into a drunken wrestling match, but I digress. Johnson has had some things said about him, and he is a prototypical power back with speed. The talk about why he redshirted is ridiculous. We will never know the exact reasons, and it may be that it wasn't because of major negatives. He was a true frosh, give him a break. I think he will compete for playing time this year, and will get a share of the carries. Smith and/or Green could redshirt as well, so don't be mad if that happens. Hayes and Rawls both got PT last year, and will have their shots as well. With Rawls, people have talked about vision, and if you don't have it, you'll never learn it. That simply isn't true. Use Toussaint as an example, he started out slow in 2011, but became more patient with picking his hole and waiting for blocks to develop and went on to have a good year. Everybody has high hopes for Green, and while I think he won't redshirt, I don't think he will walk in a start from Day 1. Many people overlook the intangibles of becoming a well-rounded RB. Can he learn the playbook, blocking assignments, etc.? I think he can and will, but as Borges says, will he have paralysis by analysis? That's pretty common for true frosh. I'm going to say that Toussaint will be healthy and will be the starter.
Funchess and Williams both got playing time last year and I would expect them to be the primary options (as most would). If they can round out their games and be solid in both receiving and blocking, you should have a formidable attack. I don't know if Butt will be ready to contribute, but don't worry about his weight right now. He got sick and lost a bunch of weight, but said he expects to be in the 240-245 range by fall. If he can pick things up quickly, and being an EE will certainly help in that regard, be could provide another option.
On the O, Overall:
Look for the passing game to improve with Gardner at the helm, much like it did late in the year. The OL will be built to pound the football, which will help the rushing game a ton. The RBs will have to fight it out, but there is talent there so I think overall, the offense is going to be pretty balanced. WR is still a concern, but if Gardner continues to progress, he can cover that up a little bit, but that's a big if. My biggest concern is Borges and his play calling. I can think of more times than not that I questioned how he called the games. Not just a play or two here and there, but just look at the 2nd half of the OSU game for reference. I think the O is better than last year, even though we lose Denard's playmaking abilities. Those same abilities were shut down by good Ds. Balance will be the key.
On to the D, starting with DL:
Pipkins and Washington should be very serviceable in the middle, and could become a force. Pipkins has the higher ceiling, but Washington was very consistent last year. If he can elevate his game, as well as Pipkins, the NT position will be a strength. Black will be good at the 3-tech, though a lot of people doubt him. He was undersized there last year, and it was a new position for him. I expect him to take a leap this year and become disruptive. Henry has been mentioned quite a bit as well, and looks to have shped his body for the task. This is the best I've felt about the interior line in a long time. Then you have Wormley, who can play the 3 or 5-tech. He would have played last year as we all know, and he is absolutely massive now. Strobel will compete hard at the 5 as well, and you might see Black slide out too. Things look pretty promising. The weak side end should be a strong point has well, with Mario and Clark showing good weight gains, and their physical abilities should allow them to get after the passer, something we haven't seen in some time. Taco might see time as a true frosh, but it is not that likely. Beyer I would expect to be moved between WDE and SDE. The line, if it can live up to its potential, could be very impressive.
It seems that there are too many playmakers now, which is definitely a good thing. Ross, Bolden, Ryan, and Morgan are all solid. Cam Gordon is still around, and Ringer should be back from injury. Not a lot of beef, but if they can read and react and fly to the ball, but D could be very stout against the run. They will need the DL to eat up blockers so they can roam free, but as indicated above, the DL looks to be shaping up to do just that.
Countess will hopefully return to form, and not have to play special teams. Taylor played well at times last year and just needs to be more consistent. He was getting his first snaps and seemed to progress as the season went on. He should start opposite Countess and give a solid 2nd corner. The main question mark is who replaces Kovacs. Gordon played well last year, and should be the leader of the back end. The only question is does he stay at FS or move to SS? Overall, it is not a huge difference, and having somebody like Wilson to roam the middle wouldn't be a bad thing. Wilson was shaken at times last year, but he was once again a true frosh so I expect a big gain out of him this year. I was never too impressed with Furman coming in, but I want to know what happened to Robinson. He would be a good SS if he can put it all together. He has the physical attributes. Gant and Clark will have their shot, but I don't know that they're ready to pass up the aforementioned players. Where will Dymonte land? I think he will see the field somewhere in the secondary as a freshman. Ideally, if he is the nickelback, he could also help out in run support. Mattison plays quite a bit with a nickleback on the field, so he could bring something to the table having played mostly LB in HS. I think the corners will be good and Gordon will be solid, but we need that true-ballhawking safety back there. Hopefully that's Wilson.
This D is shaping up to be a strong unit, with a lot of depth. The DL and LBs will have the ability to rotate a lot, and keep fresh bodies in the game. The secondary has some question marks, but overall should be solid. This D will be better than last year's.
1) The pics of players and some peoples fascination with them is disturbing. Can somebody please slip in a few hot chick pics to get this thread back on course?
2) Kyle, spell check, proof read, whatever, but your posts are grammatically poor, and somewhat annoying. Not content wise, but learn to spell man!!! (just giving you a hard time).
Welcome back! Great post.
don't act like you read any of that
LOL i actually did read it...not a bad little summary of how our team is looking I agreed with just about all of it
Now you are in my back?!
LOL you mean ON? He was right about the typos...haha u saying he is in ur back could be anything...especially homosexually
Dude is straight jacked now. He'd kick little Braxtons ass
Who has been discounting Jack Miller? Seems to me most people think he'll be starting center.
And seriously now, how long did it take you to type all that?
Braxton weighs more than him, but yeah, I get your point.
Jake Ryan tore his ACL.
Ever since his performance in the Sugar Bowl I've been waiting for Clark to breakout. Think this is It
Good thing Gordon stayed for his 5th year.
Edit: thought I was quoting the Ryan post.
This post was edited by xxmgobluexx 13 months ago
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