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Brandon Catfishes Michigan players

  • Per Kyle Rowland of 11 Warriors, Dave Brandon set up a Catfish type situation for players on the football team, and it worked.

    Paraphrasing his Twitter timeline: It was a standard set-up and a lot of players fell for it. They had an attractive woman contact players through social networks and some made lewd comments, etc. when starting to talk to the fake person. The players met with Brandon later on at some point, where he broke the news. As you'd expect, most were shocked.

    Steve Lorenz

  • Good. Better to teach them this way than risk it blowing up into a Manti Te'o situation.

    Although, Te'o was absolutely in on it, but still.

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    CMXI

  • Steve Lorenz said...

    Per Kyle Rowland of 11 Warriors, Dave Brandon set up a Catfish type situation for players on the football team, and it worked.

    Paraphrasing his Twitter timeline: It was a standard set-up and a lot of players fell for it. They had an attractive woman contact players through social networks and some made lewd comments, etc. when starting to talk to the fake person. The players met with Brandon later on at some point, where he broke the news. As you'd expect, most were shocked.

    I hope this isn't true. It's totally creepy.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    I hope this isn't true. It's totally creepy.

    It's a learning experience for the players. They fell for it, didn't they? In a world where social network and the scams they produce are constantly evolving, the players are fortunate to have an athletic department that is proactive and not reactive, although they're technically reacting to the Te'o situation. Still.

    This post was edited by Steve Lorenz on 2/1/2013 at 9:54 AM

    Steve Lorenz

  • Pretty creepy on DB's part.

    Guy is a shark though so it doesn't surprise me, I guess it taught players a valuable lesson.

    Not exactly a flattering story for the AD though.

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  • God, i wish these kids were banned from Twitter all together.

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  • Steve Lorenz said...

    It's a learning experience for the players. They fell for it, didn't they? In a world where social network and the scams they produce are constantly evolving, the players are fortunate to have an athletic department that is proactive and not reactive, although they're technically reacting to the Te'o situation. Still.

    I'm with MrWoodson on this. I think it is kind of creepy.

    IF DB felt this was the best way to teach a lesson, fine. But this should not have been made public, imo.

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  • Well of course they fell for it. Who wouldnt for a little while at least. Not like they fell for it for years.

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  • Steve Lorenz said...

    It's a learning experience for the players. They fell for it, didn't they? In a world where social network and the scams they produce are constantly evolving, the players are fortunate to have an athletic department that is proactive and not reactive, although they're technically reacting to the Te'o situation. Still.

    I'm not sure the proper test as to whether our AD should be catfishing our players with young women or not is whether they fall for it. These are adults. They are entitled to run their own lives. And they should be able to trust their coaches and the people in the AD. What's next ... hiring private detectives to go through their trash and follow them around at night to see where they go and who they meet? Or maybe Brandon can hire someone to hack their computers to keep tabs on what sites they visit and go through their emails? Sorry, but if I was one of the players I'd be pissed. I hope someone (a reporter?) who reads this story is creative enough to figure out how to do something similar to Brandon.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 2/1/2013 at 10:20 AM

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  • Due51 said...

    IF DB felt this was the best way to teach a lesson, fine. But this should not have been made public, imo.

    Making it public is something I would agree is questionable.

    Steve Lorenz

  • Would the Teo situation not be the biggest learning tool you could have? I think Brandon had good intentions with this but the way it's coming seems creepy and downright odd especially so close to signing day.

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  • Due51 said...

    I'm with MrWoodson on this. I think it is kind of creepy.

    IF DB felt this was the best way to teach a lesson, fine. But this should not have been made public, imo.

    I agree that it shouldn't have been made public, but there's nothing wrong with teaching the kids a lesson. As athletes, they're public faces of the university, and they need to monitor themselves and behave accordingly. If any of them want to go on to pro sports, they'll need to be even more vigilant.

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  • Am I the only one who would hate to attend a school or play for a program that would do something like this?

    "Hey come play for Michigan where the administration is going to do its best to EMBARRASS THE SHIT OUT OF YOU" is not a good recruiting pitch.

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  • CMXI said...

    I agree that it shouldn't have been made public, but there's nothing wrong with teaching the kids a lesson. As athletes, they're public faces of the university, and they need to monitor themselves and behave accordingly. If any of them want to go on to pro sports, they'll need to be even more vigilant.

    CMXI im sorry but i disagree with you on this. this is not the way to supposedly teach someone a lesson. this was a poor choice of judgement on Brandons part, and i dont feel like there is any other way to view this.
    im guessing that if this was any other AD other than Brandon you would find this as deceitful, awful, and very creepy.

    sb144904

  • This story is...weird. Personally, I don't think it was necessary some bad and offensive idea, but it probably would have been easier just to ban Twitter use for the players. I guess it does send a pretty strong message though.

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  • CMXI said...

    I agree that it shouldn't have been made public, but there's nothing wrong with teaching the kids a lesson. As athletes, they're public faces of the university, and they need to monitor themselves and behave accordingly. If any of them want to go on to pro sports, they'll need to be even more vigilant.

    How would you feel if someone in a position of trust did this to you? What if your parents saw the Te'o story and thought it would be a good idea to get some hot chick to catfish you to educate you on the dangers of the interwebs? And you spent several weeks texting back and forth with this chick (behind your gf's or wife's back) only to later find out all the creepy chatter and naked pics of your manly parts that you were sending out were actually going to your parents. Well, as long as you learned a good lesson out of it, right?

    There definitely is a lesson here, but it has nothing to do with catfishing or the internet. It's an ages old lesson ... the ends don't justify the means. It's a lesson Dave Brandon apparently never learned.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 2/1/2013 at 11:40 AM

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  • I'm thinking this story is significantly less big of a deal than a lot of people itt are making it out to be

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  • inuyesta said...

    I'm thinking this story is significantly less big of a deal than a lot of people itt are making it out to be

    This times a million.

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  • inuyesta said...

    I'm thinking this story is significantly less big of a deal than a lot of people itt are making it out to be

    Dave Brandon better hope you're right.

    MrWoodson

  • inuyesta said...

    I'm thinking this story is significantly less big of a deal than a lot of people itt are making it out to be

    nope wrong times a million
    this is a big deal especially from an AD. this is wrong. nothing more to be said, because mrwoodson has summed it up well.

    sb144904

  • Whatever happened to having a meeting with the players, saying, "Guys, you are going to have some people try to get close to you one way or another. One way is by ........."

    Is really creepy.... imagine if it was your son that his AD was acting like a girl online to? Really Really creepy!

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  • More info

    http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130201/BLOG013/130209986/university-of-michigan-were-not-catfishing-our-student-athletes

    MaizeBlue321726

  • BestoftheBig said...

    Whatever happened to having a meeting with the players, saying, "Guys, you are going to have some people try to get close to you one way or another. One way is by ........."

    Is really creepy.... imagine if it was your son that his AD was acting like a girl online to? Really Really creepy!

    The players are frequently reminded of what is and is not acceptable behavior on social media outlets. Apparently, the message was not getting across to some of them.

    MaizeBlue321726

  • MrWoodson said...

    How would you feel if someone in a position of trust did this to you? What if your parents saw the Te'o story and thought it would be a good idea to get some hot chick to catfish you to educate you on the dangers of the interwebs? And you spent several weeks texting back and forth with this chick (behind your gf's or wife's back) only to later find out all the creepy chatter and naked pics of your manly parts that you were sending out were actually going to your parents. Well, as long as you learned a good lesson out of it, right?

    There definitely is a lesson here, but it has nothing to do with catfishing or the internet. It's an ages old lesson ... the ends don't justify the means. It's a lesson Dave Brandon apparently never learned.

    This was done BEFORE the Manti Teo incident.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    How would you feel if someone in a position of trust did this to you? What if your parents saw the Te'o story and thought it would be a good idea to get some hot chick to catfish you to educate you on the dangers of the interwebs? And you spent several weeks texting back and forth with this chick (behind your gf's or wife's back) only to later find out all the creepy chatter and naked pics of your manly parts that you were sending out were actually going to your parents. Well, as long as you learned a good lesson out of it, right?

    There definitely is a lesson here, but it has nothing to do with catfishing or the internet. It's an ages old lesson ... the ends don't justify the means. It's a lesson Dave Brandon apparently never learned.

    You're using an extreme example though. This wasn't a situation where they developed some kind of intimate relationship with any of the players. This was someone friending them, gathering information off their online footprint, and then showing them what they're doing wrong on social media.

    Also, if anyone's willing to send creepy texts and dickpics to some hot chick behind their wife or gf's back, they don't have any moral ground to stand on.

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