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Beat OSU, receive BCS.

  • Works for me

    Schmohawk_3

  • Doubtful.

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  • neoavatara said...

    Doubtful.

    Take your pessimistic attitude elsewhere.

    Schmohawk_3

  • Schmohawk_3 said...

    Works for me

    If you mean as an at-large, it's a longshot but not crazy. Assuming KSU and Oregon go undefeated, I see them in the title game and BCS slots filled as follows:

    BCSCG: KSU (B12 Champ) v. Oregon (P12 Champ)
    Fiesta: Oklahoma (At-Large #1) v. Georgia (At-Large #3)
    Rose: Nebraska (B10 Champ) v. ND (At-Large #2)
    Sugar: Alabama (SEC Champ) v. Clemson (At-Large #4)
    Orange: FSU (ACC Champ) v. Rutgers (BE Champ)

    So for a 9-3 Michigan team to get a BCS at-large bid, presumably two of Oklahoma, FSU and Clemson need to pick up another loss. Remaining opponents for each ...

    Oklahoma: @WVU, Okie St, @TCU
    FSU: @MD, UF, MIA (ACCCG)
    Clemson: NCSt, USCe

    It's conceivable at least two and even all three could pick up at least one more loss. It that hapoens and UM beats ubdefeated OSU on the road, we clearly would have the best win of any of them as well as the least damaging losses. The computers already have us at 16, which means it would come down to the voters whether we would move into the top 14 and become BCS eligible. My guess is we would and then its just a question of which two or three loss teams the Fiesta and Sugar consider to be the best options.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 11/12/2012 at 10:09 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    If you mean as an at-large, it's a longshot but not crazy. Assuming KSU and Oregon go undefeated, I see them in the title game and BCS slots filled as follows:

    BCSCG: KSU (B12 Champ) v. Oregon (P12 Champ) Fiesta: Oklahoma (At-Large #1) v. Georgia (At-Large #3) Rose: Nebraska (B10 Champ) v. ND (At-Large #2) Sugar: Alabama (SEC Champ) v. Clemson (At-Large #4) Orange: FSU (ACC Champ) v. Rutgers (BE Champ)

    So for a 9-3 Michigan team to get a BCS at-large bid, presumably two of Oklahoma, FSU and Clemson need to pick up another loss. Remaining opponents for each ...

    Oklahoma: @WVU, Okie St, @TCU FSU: @MD, UF, MIA (ACCCG) Clemson: NCSt, USCe

    It's conceivable at least two and even all three could pick up at least one more loss. It that hapoens and UM beats ubdefeated OSU on the road, we clearly would have the best win of any of them as well as the least damaging losses. The computers already have us at 16, which means it would come down to the voters whether we would move into the top 14 and become BCS eligible. My guess is we would and then its just a question of which two or three loss teams the Fiesta and Sugar consider to be the best options.

    This guy gets it. Would love to get the Fiesta against ND.

    Schmohawk_3

  • My guess, and it is only a guess, is that FSU and Oklahoma would get a BCS bid before us. And I am not sure a win over OSU is going to mean as much as you think...voters clearly are not that impressed with them.

    That said, I hope I am very, very, very wrong.

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  • Schmohawk_3 said...

    This guy gets it. Would love to get the Fiesta against ND.

    I don't see any way we get a rematch against ND unless Nebraska drops a game and we win the B10 and make it to the Rose Bowl. The Fiesta will pick the #2 SEC team ahead of us to face ND.

    MrWoodson

  • ND is in the Rose unless Oregon loses, assuming Kstate wins out. Or if Kstate loses, then ND in the championship game.

    The only way they end up in the Fiesta is if they lose to USC, and Oregon loses. And even then, some other chips will have to fall.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by neoavatara on 11/12/2012 at 10:29 AM

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  • neoavatara said...

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that FSU and Oklahoma would get a BCS bid before us. And I am not sure a win over OSU is going to mean as much as you think...voters clearly are not that impressed with them.

    That said, I hope I am very, very, very wrong.

    FSU probably will be locked into the Orange. If so, they are out of the running for an at-large. The more likely scenario is a choice between us, Oklahoma and Clemson. If Oklahoma is BCS eligible, I agree they will be selected by the Fiesta to replace KSU. But if they lose one of their remaining games I don't think they will be eligible. So, as UM fans, we should be rooting for Clemson, Oklahoma and Nebraska all to lose. And for Oregon and KSU to win out. And, of course, we still need to beat Ohio.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 11/12/2012 at 10:32 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    FSU probably will be locked into the Orange. If so, they are out of the running for an at-large. The more likely scenario is a choice between us, Oklahoma and Clemson. I agree if Oklahoma is BCS eligible, they will be selected by the Fiesta to replace KSU. But if they lose one of their remaining games I don't think they will be. So, as UM fans, we should be rooting for Clemson, Oklahoma and Nebraska all to lose. And for Oregon and KSU to win out. And, of course, we still need to beat Ohio.

    Yeah. Well, I just want to beat Ohio...everything else is moot.

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  • neoavatara said...

    Yeah. Well, I just want to beat Ohio...everything else is moot.

    Yeah...I'm not sure if we sneak in as an at-large again after sneaking in at #14 or whatever we were last year.

    That being said...if we do I'd be a happy camper.

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  • neoavatara said...

    Yeah. Well, I just want to beat Ohio...everything else is moot.

    Agree. It's the most important thing and I will be very happy if we end up in the Capital One Bowl against LSU or UF so long as we beat Ohio.

    MrWoodson

  • neoavatara said...

    Yeah. Well, I just want to beat Ohio...everything else is moot.

    Your 100% right sir!!!!! Ohio can't go undefeated ...pukeface

    Slugjuice

  • If Michigan goes to a BCS as an at Large...tRCMB would surely implode

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    RicoX19

  • RicoX19 said...

    If Michigan goes to a BCS as an at Large...tRCMB would surely implode

    Lets be honest...they will implode either way.

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  • In order for any possible scenerio that gets us a BCS game to work, Ohio needs to beat Wisconsin and go into The Game undefeated. Does this mean we cheer for Ohio to beat Wisky? I'm not sure I can bring myself to do that.

    hailbigblue

  • hailbigblue said...

    In order for any possible scenerio that gets us a BCS game to work, Ohio needs to beat Wisconsin and go into The Game undefeated. Does this mean we cheer for Ohio to beat Wisky? I'm not sure I can bring myself to do that.

    No. Go Badgers!

    MrWoodson

  • hailbigblue said...

    In order for any possible scenerio that gets us a BCS game to work, Ohio needs to beat Wisconsin and go into The Game undefeated. Does this mean we cheer for Ohio to beat Wisky? I'm not sure I can bring myself to do that.

    pukeface

    This post was edited by neoavatara on 11/12/2012 at 11:25 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    No. Go Badgers!

    My thoughts exactly.

    hailbigblue

  • I think Oklahoma, FSU, and Clemson will all lose at least one more game.

    If Michigan wins out, we will get an at-large bid. Our 3 losses will have been to other (currently) BCS Bound teams on the road.

    Also, if Oklahoma loses 2 (which I think will happen), then the Sooners will be eliminated from the discussion.

    Lastly, I expect FSU to lose to UF and I expect Clemson to lose to USC. (However, the ACC can make a statement against the SEC if both ACC teams win at home.)

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  • I think it depends a lot on whether Oregon or K-State finishes #1. If Oregon is #1, then I think we have a small chance:

    BCS: Oregon v. Kansas State
    Rose: Nebraska v. (1st pick)
    Fiesta: (2nd pick) v. (3rd pick)
    Sugar: Alabama v. (4th pick)
    Orange: FSU v. (5th pick)

    I think the Rose takes Notre Dame, and then I think the Fiesta would go with Oklahoma vs. the at-large SEC team, but there's a chance they could take us with one of those picks. I doubt the Sugar Bowl has any interest in either an Alabama/UM rematch or an Alabama/Big East Champ pasting, so they'll take the 3rd at-large and leave the Big East to the Orange Bowl, so our only shot is to get one of the Fiesta Bowl slots, which is a slim chance, but an extant one.

    If K-State finishes #1 though

    BCS: Kansas State v. Oregon
    Fiesta: (1st pick) v. (3rd pick)
    Rose: Nebraska v. (2nd pick)
    Sugar: Alabama v. (4th pick)
    Orange: FSU v. (5th pick)

    In this scenario, Fiesta will take Notre Dame first, then the Rose will take either Oklahoma or the SEC at-large. Fiesta has no interest in hosting either ND-UM rematch or a ND-OU rematch, so they'll go for either the SEC at-large or Clemson. Same reasoning as before applies for Sugar, so they'll take whichever of Oklahoma or Clemson is available, and Orange is once again stuck with FSU v. Big East. I really can't imagine where UM could crack into this scenario.

    So, if you want UM in a BCS game, root for
    (1) Oregon's vanquished foes to win out
    (2) Oklahoma and Clemson to pick up losses
    (3) Georgia in the SEC Championship Game, so that Sugar can consider us.
    (4) Louisiana Tech to lose somewhere, so they don't accidentally earn an NAQ auto-bid

    I think it's a real longshot we get in though, if things stay the same at the top. Maybe the best thing for us would be if Kansas State lost but still won the Big 12. Then...

    BCS: Oregon v. Notre Dame
    Rose: Nebraska v. (1st pick)
    Fiesta: Kansas State v. (2nd pick)
    Sugar: Alabama v. (3rd pick)
    Orange: FSU v. (4th pick)

    Then, the Rose might take the SEC at-large, leaving the Fiesta to choose between us, Clemson, a K-State/OU rematch, or the Big East champ.

    inuyesta

  • RicoX19 said...

    If Michigan goes to a BCS as an at Large...tRCMB would surely implode

    LOL, I spent heaps of time last year telling Sparty "look morons, 3 loss teams don't make the BCS. Take care of ND next time."

    inuyesta

  • hailbigblue said...

    My thoughts exactly.

    Guys get over it. At the end of the day Michigan decides their own fate against OSU. We might as well get a BCS out of it.

    Schmohawk_3

  • Schmohawk_3 said...

    Guys get over it. At the end of the day Michigan decides their own fate against OSU. We might as well get a BCS out of it.

    If the football gods were to tell me that we're guarenteed to beat Ohio then I'd be all for it. I can't stomach the Idea of Ohio going undefeated. I have a feeling that Wisky pulls this one out over Ohio regardless of who we cheer for. I do see your point though.

    hailbigblue

  • Schmohawk_3 said...

    Guys get over it. At the end of the day Michigan decides their own fate against OSU. We might as well get a BCS out of it.

    On Wisconsin!

    Sorry, I would love to see Ohio close out the season with two losses and no bowl game. And whether Ohio is 11-0 or 10-1 when we beat them will have minimal impact on our small chances of making a BCS bowl. What Oklahoma and Clemson do in their final few games is far more important.

    MrWoodson

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