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B1G to add Maryland and Rutgers?

  • What to you guys think of this? Think it happens? Good or bad for the B1G?

    Report: B1G could add Maryland, Rutgers - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN

    Sources have told ESPN.com that the Big Ten is in serious discussions with Maryland about adding the Terrapins as the league's 13th member. If that o

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    A2Wolverines

  • I am against all conference expansion in football.

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    WillyWolverine

  • Would be absolutely terrible for the Big Ten. They would add nothing except two more wins for us. Maryland would add a little basketball-wise, but yuck.

    They would add huge markets (NYC and Washington DCarea) for the BTN.

    But god I hope it's not true.

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    Ducksworth

  • Terrible idea. I don't think the B1G realizes, but New York doesn't really care about college football as a whole. Of course there are fans, but it isn't a huge deal with all the pro teams.

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  • Among bad ideas for expansion, this may be among the worst.

    First it adds virtually nothing on the football side, and adds very little on the TV side.

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    neoavatara

  • Very, very interesting if this in fact comes to pass. Maryland would be a great addition for basketball. For football, the Terps have had some awful luck this year, but I think Edsall can turn them around. Rutgers could probably have a shot to be a middle of the pack B1G team in football if they can continue to recruit as they have been. Recruiting wise, this would really open up the east coast even more to schools like Michigan.

    I should add that in general, I'm not in favor of any further expansion. I honestly think 12 teams is already too many, but that ship has sailed. I hate when conference teams don't play each other for several years, and adding two more teams will only make it worse. But I do think there are some potential positives with this move.

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  • Superconferences are happening, dunno what good it does to hope otherwise.

    As for what I think about Maryland and Rutgers specifically....

    Both schools fit the conference academically
    Both schools would help give the B1G more exposure in big TV markets (which, some people scoff, but more $ for the conference means better facilities, better coaches, better recruiting and thus better teams)
    Rutgers has an OK football tradition
    Maryland has an OK basketball tradition
    Addition of both schools would probably help Michigan recruit in those areas ("Hey, Good Counsel/Don Bosco 4* X, you'll get to play near home a couple times, your family wouldn't always have to come halfway across the country to see you")

    so, really, I'd be pretty OK with this, makes a lot of sense, and I can't immediately think of any (realistic) schools I'd rather the conference add. For teams 15 and 16 I'd like to see the conference intrude into the South a little bit (maybe poach some combination of Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, UNC, and Clemson from the ACC, or maybe Louisville) but Rutgers and Maryland make a lot of sense.

    inuyesta

  • Terrible. Not bringing that much money into the conference - almost certainly not more than they'd take. No idea why the Big Ten would do this outside of simply wanting to add teams.

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  • inuyesta said...

    Superconferences are happening, dunno what good it does to hope otherwise.

    As for what I think about Maryland and Rutgers specifically....

    Both schools fit the conference academically Both schools would help give the B1G more exposure in big TV markets (which, some people scoff, but more $ for the conference means better facilities, better coaches, better recruiting and thus better teams) Rutgers has an OK football tradition Maryland has an OK basketball tradition Addition of both schools would probably help Michigan recruit in those areas ("Hey, Good Counsel/Don Bosco 4* X, you'll get to play near home a couple times, your family wouldn't always have to come halfway across the country to see you")

    so, really, I'd be pretty OK with this, makes a lot of sense, and I can't immediately think of any (realistic) schools I'd rather the conference add. For teams 15 and 16 I'd like to see the conference intrude into the South a little bit (maybe poach some combination of Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, UNC, and Clemson from the ACC, or maybe Louisville) but Rutgers and Maryland make a lot of sense.

    Superconferences may be coming but that doens't mean i have to accept it. Doesn't even mean i have to give any credit to a team that is "crowned" a champion of a superconference. Superconference equals no real true conference champion in my opinion. All the Big Ten is doing is killing the tradition of what it means to be a conference champion.

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  • Please be the catalyst needed to reorganize (and rename) the divisions ...

    B10 East
    Michigan
    OSU
    MSU
    Maryland
    Rutgers
    Purdue
    Indiana

    B10 West
    PSU
    Nebraska
    Wisconsin
    Iowa
    Illinois
    NW
    Minnesota

    pray

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  • Ducksworth said...

    Would be absolutely terrible for the Big Ten. They would add nothing except two more wins for us. Maryland would add a little basketball-wise, but yuck.

    They would add huge markets (NYC and Washington DCarea) for the BTN.

    But god I hope it's not true.

    The other factor in this equation.... schools i.e. Michigan would probably NOT play the UMass, Eastern Michigan's, etc. of the world. I would rather play a Rutgers or Maryland vs. UMass or Eastern.

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  • What "tradition of what it means to be a conference champion," exactly, does expansion to superconferences kill? I don't understand that position.

    inuyesta

  • MrWoodson said...

    Please be the catalyst needed to reorganize (and rename) the divisions ...

    B10 EastMichigan OSU MSU Maryland Rutgers Purdue Indiana

    B10 WestPSU Nebraska Wisconsin Iowa Illinois NW Minnesota

    pray

    Michigan would played Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue and Indiana every year? YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • inuyesta said...

    What "tradition of what it means to be a conference champion," exactly, does expansion to superconferences kill? I don't understand that position.

    What I mean is that it has meant everything to Michigan to win the Big Ten conference championship. In my opinion, when you don't play every team or all but one team then you don't get a true conference champion. It's watered down. So for me the conference championship would no longer mean jack squat. It already is losing some of it's luster in my opinion.

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  • WillyWolverine said...

    What I mean is that it has meant everything to Michigan to win the Big Ten conference championship. In my opinion, when you don't play every team or all but one team then you don't get a true conference champion. It's watered down. So for me the conference championship would no longer mean jack squat. It already is losing some of it's luster in my opinion.

    I mean, we already don't play 3 teams.

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  • inuyesta said...

    I mean, we already don't play 3 teams.

    Yep and i don't like. I even said in my post that the conference championship is already losing some of its luster for me.

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    WillyWolverine

  • Rutgers and Maryland suck, if the B1G doesn't want to slip into mediocrity than these two shouldn't be added.

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    TAMUWolverine

  • PSU would probably go join the ACC if you put them in a Western division and Rutgers and Maryland put in the other division.lol

    PSU is probably one of the few schools in the Big Ten who might get a tangible benefit out of this expansion beyond BTN revenue by having two other Mid-Atlantic teams and possible rivals in the conference.

    UMSkeletor

  • UMSkeletor said...

    PSU would probably go join the ACC if you put them in a Western division and Rutgers and Maryland put in the other division.lol

    PSU is probably one of the few schools in the Big Ten who might get a tangible benefit out of this expansion beyond BTN revenue by having two other Mid-Atlantic teams and possible rivals in the conference.

    I think a PSU fan mentioned that we are a combined 57-3-1 against those two teams. I'd say calling them "rivals" is a bit generous. biggrin

    Not sure we benefit that much. Those two schools could recruit against us a bit more easily now. We'll see.

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  • psubills62 said...

    I think a PSU fan mentioned that we are a combined 57-3-1 against those two teams. I'd say calling them "rivals" is a bit generous. biggrin

    Not sure we benefit that much. Those two schools could recruit against us a bit more easily now. We'll see.

    Well I think it might get a bit more competitive. I think the Under Armour guy wants to build Maryland into Oregon East basically. Rutgers today isn't the complete bottom feeder it used to be either anymore.

    UMSkeletor

  • Two Words: Hell No

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  • inuyesta said...

    Maryland has an OK basketball tradition

    That's putting it a touch lightly. We invented Midnight Madness for goshsakes.

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  • I'll take Rutgers if we get rid of Indiana

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  • Moon said...

    I'll take Rutgers if we get rid of Indiana

    Can't get rid of Indiana.

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    WillyWolverine

  • I don't want expansion but if it did happen; teams that would make sense would be: Pitt, ND, and WVU on tier one and on tier two would be Rutgers, Syracuse, Cincinnati and those are a stretch. Please don't let this happen, Nebraska was a perfect fit and I agreed with it. Leave it alone already.

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