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BrianD said...
I guess I have mixed feelings on this. It is LOL because it does involve OSU but at that same time I completely disagree with his dad saying
"You don't want your son to go to a place where there's a potential issue (like this),"
If you are naive enough to think that there aren't random wierdos hanging out around college campuses all over this country trying to become friends with athletes then you have another thing coming for you. To think that the university could somehow keep these kids away from the student body (lol) is LOL.
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BrianD said...
I guess I have mixed feelings on this. It is LOL because it does involve OSU but at that same time I completely disagree with his dad saying
"You don't want your son to go to a place where there's a potential issue (like this),"
If you are naive enough to think that there aren't random wierdos hanging out around college campuses all over this country trying to become friends with athletes then you have another thing coming for you. To think that the university could somehow keep these kids away from the student body (lol) is LOL.
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Proud2BBlue said...
And finally we have a winner. I have a 15 year old son, and I don't care what could happen on campus, I care about what DID happen, and this did. As a parent you do everything you can to protect your kids, knowing that at some point you have to let go of the rope. You don't let them go when they are 16 years old, they are not men, they are still boys. Rational or not, if my kid was at a bar, being photographed with a convicted pedophile, I would want Meyers head on a stick. For anyone to blast this parent, best of luck to you when you have children and go through something like this. What a messed up fan base down in Columbus, they should be ashamed.
This post was edited by AllDay28 on 5/5/2012 at 9:10 AM
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Proud2BBlue said...
And finally we have a winner. I have a 15 year old son, and I don't care what could happen on campus, I care about what DID happen, and this did. As a parent you do everything you can to protect your kids, knowing that at some point you have to let go of the rope. You don't let them go when they are 16 years old, they are not men, they are still boys. Rational or not, if my kid was at a bar, being photographed with a convicted pedophile, I would want Meyers head on a stick. For anyone to blast this parent, best of luck to you when you have children and go through something like this. What a messed up fan base down in Columbus, they should be ashamed.
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AllDay28 said...
I can completely sympathize with the emotional reaction. But Sal's comments are just that, emotional, not rational. You can't really expect Meyer and Ohio State to screen every random fan who shows up and wants to take photographs with players and recruits. Contrary to UMPat's trolling, he wasn't invited to be with the players by anyone affiliated with the university. There wasn't even an Ohio State coach or staff member present when he approached them. He was just a guy who came up, talked to them, and wanted a picture. He isn't a booster or affiliated with the university whatsoever. He is just a guy that attempted to make buddies with recruits. There is literally no rational person who would expect a university to be able to control every random guy who wants to talk to recruits when is out and about. This is what kids do on recruiting visits. They go out, meet students, drink, and have a good time. That's what I did at all my recruiting visits and I couldn't have blamed the universities I was at if a sick dude came up to me when I was out with the players.
Honestly, it's pretty clear from his comments that "Alex was already having second thoughts" that this is just being used as an excuse. Sal isn't a stupid guy, he knows he can't blame the university for random fans. It's likely they are feeling a bit embarrassed about decommitting so quickly and this felt like a good way out. It's unfortunate that it's happening this way. But the whole thing is a real non-issue for any objective minded person.
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Proud2BBlue said...
Your entire response is beyond disturbing. If you believe this is normal behavior for 16 and 17 year old kids, then the process is broken beyond repair and needs to stop. So you are out with players, at that age, drinking? If I was the coach, and my players helped 'show these kids a good time' like that, they wouldn't be my players. These kids didn't stumble into some random bar, they were led there. And seeing as you are so good at making assumptions about a family you don't know, so will I. This guy wasn't new to the players. They knew who could be exploited for free food and drinks, and they let these recruits know.
And that drug dealing, money laundering thug running that tattoo parlor wasn't a booster either, was he? How did that work out? There's a problem in Columbus, and it is not looking at this point like much is changing. That's what happens when the football program runs the University, and again, congrats on your awesome hire of a head coach.
This post was edited by AllDay28 on 5/5/2012 at 9:38 AM
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AllDay28 said...
Wait, what? Did you even read what I wrote? I went out drinking when I was 17 and 18 on all my recruiting visits. It's the way recruiting visits work and anyone who has played college sports knows this. In fact, I know it absolutely happens at Michigan as well as several of my HS teammates took visits there (and one went there). It doesn't matter what sport you play it happens. The kids knew this guy because he was the type of guy who hangs out at these bars. They hadn't been introduced to him by the school. He was a guy who hangs out at bars and attempts to make friends. Do you really expect Meyer to follow his players to the bar? And comparing this to kids hanging out with a drug dealer is, at best, disingenuous.
All this indignation over underage drinking and a random guy who approaches players on his own is either disingenuous or a blatant attempt to make the issue into something it's not. I get that our fan bases like to attempt to smear one another, but this one is laughable.
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AllDay28 said...
How so? There was a little initial worry before all the facts came out. Then the university told the kids to stay away from him and told him to stay away from the kids. That was basically the extent of what the university did. Now, once ESPN starts writing articles about it, it requires response. But I don't think anyone thought it was a big deal until all the rumors started flying around and people started jumping to conclusions that, as far as we know, aren't true.
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AllDay28 said...
How so? There was a little initial worry before all the facts came out. Then the university told the kids to stay away from him and told him to stay away from the kids. That was basically the extent of what the university did. Now, once ESPN starts writing articles about it, it requires response. But I don't think anyone thought it was a big deal until all the rumors started flying around and people started jumping to conclusions that, as far as we know, aren't true.
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UMPat said...
Yes but the "weirdo" wasn't just near the student body, he was invited to be with them, he was their friend. I think the proper analogy would be if you interviewed for a job with a company. You like everything about the company, the organization, your boss, your co-workers. But then afterwards you all went out to dinner and your future co-workers invite a pedophile (not knowing he is one). So now you've hung out with this "weirdo" and discovered that all your future co-workers consider him a friend and your boss is okay with it, and then you figure out that this guy is a pedophile. Now this pedophile isn't just some groupie of the company, he's actually invited by the employees, and now all that information becomes public. Are you going to take that job, when a dozen other similar companies are eager to hire you as well? I wouldn't. Should a company have to/be expected to screen all of its groupies to ensure none of them are weirdo/pedophiles? No, but once he's become friends with the employees of the company, that automatically reflects on the values of that company - whether intentionally or not.
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Proud2BBlue said...
I know a family in Pennsylvania that's not laughing. And it is comforting to know that the University has fully investigated this and has informed the NCAA that there is nothing to see here, all in less than 16 hours of the story breaking, but not shocking seeing as the last investigation was also wrapped up rather quickly and efficiently with similar finding by the University.
There seems to be a bad element associated with that program, at least looking from the outside, and it doesn't seem to be changing.
And nice dig at UM, because you know for a fact it goes on here also. Nice job of spinning, deflecting, and leveling, you get an A for that.
How about this? Stop blaming the kid and his parents. Anything short of that--is LAUGHABLE.
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