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  • JH-ATL said...

    bkp1883...........With your roster and your first five of Barnum, Lewman, Schofield, Omameh & Mealer that gives you starting five averaging 297 lbs.....bigger than the Rivals weight listed there............Smaller than Bama's avg of 218 lbs.

    And of course size does not always matter, but all other things being equal it is a factor to consider.

    Michigan's starting line were originally recruited to play in a spread offense and will do so, for the most part, again this year, so the size difference is to be expected. That said, Michigan's offensive line should be a very good and flexible group.

    Of course it seems Alabama has one of the best lines in recent memory, so there's that.

    I'll let you in on a secret: Alabama's got more talent on its roster than Michigan this year.

    bkp1883

  • Maize N Blue said...

    Dude, there is college football and there is Michigan. Once again our recruiting is still just warming up. The BEST o-line class period the last 2 years and more. We are Michigan not the average team like Texas, Oklahoma, Auburn, etc. Don't be dreaming now! I just can't wait for our expansions to be completed, hopefully in my life time. Imagine 140,000 in the Big House. Only Michigan can pull this off!

    So you are stating that Brady Hoke in a less talented part of the country will build as much talent and depth in 3 years total as Nick Saban would have in 7 years? Not to mention with 2 BCSNC trophies and in one of the most deep, talent rich areas in the entire country? Man I am all for Michigan coming back to dominance but 3 good recruiting years wont equal sabans 7 top 5 recruiting classes. The overall depth just wont be there man. Think about what you are saying. Im not saying it wont happen in 4-5 years but to assume Hoke can build a team of Alabama's depth and talent level in just 3 years is kinda hard. FWIW I cant stand Ohio State and I hope yall make those little B%^&*@ say uncle on the field every year. Send Urban running for the broadcast booth again. What a whiny little #$%^ he is.

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  • Bolden1983 said...

    So you are stating that Brady Hoke in a less talented part of the country will build as much talent and depth in 3 years total as Nick Saban would have in 7 years? Not to mention with 2 BCSNC trophies and in one of the most deep, talent rich areas in the entire country? Man I am all for Michigan coming back to dominance but 3 good recruiting years wont equal sabans 7 top 5 recruiting classes. The overall depth just wont be there man. Think about what you are saying. Im not saying it wont happen in 4-5 years but to assume Hoke can build a team of Alabama's depth and talent level in just 3 years is kinda hard. FWIW I cant stand Ohio State and I hope yall make those little B%^&*@ say uncle on the field every year. Send Urban running for the broadcast booth again. What a whiny little #$%^ he is.

    What I am saying is Michigan is very special. Much more than most CFB fans nationally know. Michigan is NOT a regional program, but rather a national program equal to ND or greater in influence and respect. Michigan has the largest alumni base period.
    Believe me I am very aware of what Saban has done. But as you can tell our recruiting is blowing off the charts and we have not won yet. Give us a year or 2 and watch out, our recruiting will be insane.
    I respect Bama, I do not respect Saban. He never could out recruit Michigan while at Moo U. Bama is an Old Van Guard of CFB like Michigan. RR killed our recruiting and we have issues we are repairing due to those few years.
    But you have to admit, we are going head to head with the top programs in the country and we are winning the recruiting battle. Because of that we will surprise the national CFB fanbase. So yes, with maybe the best coaching staff period, we will make a splash. How big, I do not know but we are headed in the right direction.
    Go Blue and please destroy those cats in south east bama. Damn I do not like them, and my wife's uncle is a booster down there. When they lose the world is a happier place!
    GO BLUE and Roll Tide (except for Sept 1).

    Maize N Blue

  • Maize N Blue said...

    What I am saying is Michigan is very special. Much more than most CFB fans nationally know. Michigan is NOT a regional program, but rather a national program equal to ND or greater in influence and respect. Michigan has the largest alumni base period. Believe me I am very aware of what Saban has done. But as you can tell our recruiting is blowing off the charts and we have not won yet. Give us a year or 2 and watch out, our recruiting will be insane. I respect Bama, I do not respect Saban. He never could out recruit Michigan while at Moo U. Bama is an Old Van Guard of CFB like Michigan. RR killed our recruiting and we have issues we are repairing due to those few years. But you have to admit, we are going head to head with the top programs in the country and we are winning the recruiting battle. Because of that we will surprise the national CFB fanbase. So yes, with maybe the best coaching staff period, we will make a splash. How big, I do not know but we are headed in the right direction. Go Blue and please destroy those cats in south east bama. Damn I do not like them, and my wife's uncle is a booster down there. When they lose the world is a happier place! GO BLUE and Roll Tide (except for Sept 1).

    I agree with the west georgia scabs.. hope they never win another football game. good luck this year and whoop the little urbies. +1 my UM brother.

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  • Bolden1983 said...

    I agree with the west georgia scabs.. hope they never win another football game. good luck this year and whoop the little urbies. +1 my UM brother.

    Stay safe bro! I want to get down to Bama sometime and enjoy those incredible tail gates.cheers

    Maize N Blue

  • Maize N Blue said...

    What I am saying is Michigan is very special. Much more than most CFB fans nationally know. Michigan is NOT a regional program, but rather a national program equal to ND or greater in influence and respect. Michigan has the largest alumni base period.
    Believe me I am very aware of what Saban has done. But as you can tell our recruiting is blowing off the charts and we have not won yet. Give us a year or 2 and watch out, our recruiting will be insane.
    I respect Bama, I do not respect Saban. He never could out recruit Michigan while at Moo U. Bama is an Old Van Guard of CFB like Michigan. RR killed our recruiting and we have issues we are repairing due to those few years.
    But you have to admit, we are going head to head with the top programs in the country and we are winning the recruiting battle. Because of that we will surprise the national CFB fanbase. So yes, with maybe the best coaching staff period, we will make a splash. How big, I do not know but we are headed in the right direction.
    Go Blue and please destroy those cats in south east bama. Damn I do not like them, and my wife's uncle is a booster down there. When they lose the world is a happier place!
    GO BLUE and Roll Tide (except for Sept 1).

    We aren't knocking michigan when we say that youre being optimistic. Saban had signed THE TOP CLASS for the last 4/5 years. Saban's first full class produced about 7 + first round picks, not including guys like upshaw, t cody... His second class has already produced three first rounders with more coming.

    I have no doubt that you guys will compete for it all in a few years...but it's strong words to say you'll be more talented than us. Bama lost four first round picks the year before we won the championship. We are loaded from starters to scout team.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • ReasonableDoubt said...ave cut back on the oversigning

    We aren't knocking michigan when we say that youre being optimistic. Saban had signed THE TOP CLASS for the last 4/5 years. Saban's first full class produced about 7 + first round picks, not including guys like upshaw, t cody... His second class has already produced three first rounders with more coming.

    I have no doubt that you guys will compete for it all in a few years...but it's strong words to say you'll be more talented than us. Bama lost four first round picks the year before we won the championship. We are loaded from starters to scout team.

    Obviously you have no idea of what Michigan is, we have been a NATIONAL program for ever. We will again get who we want wherever they are period. Did you not know that we went head to head with 3 of the nations top linemen this year and last year and we won the recruiting battle. My point, our recruiting has been equal to the top CFB programs. Since we have one of the top NFL DEF coordinator as our DC. Add that to what Michigan is and has, none other compares. Not knocking any other school, but Michigan is very special.

    Sure you are loaded, and the signing rules have cut back on the oversigning which has pissed off nick satan.

    I respect BAMA, but I can't stand nick satan. I want you, the media and other fans to continue to tell our kids they don't have a chance, are not good enough, don't measure up, etc.

    Bama may with and will compete for the NC this year, but the season will be interesting!

    With that behind us, as I said, I respect BAMA and I'd have a beer and enjoy a game with any BAMA fan anytime. But any other SEC fan, stay away I can't stand the arrogance.

    Just beat the crap outta that SW georgia school, please killem!

    This post was edited by Maize N Blue on 6/27/2012 at 7:14 PM

    Maize N Blue

  • Maize N Blue said...

    Obviously you have no idea of what Michigan is, we have been a NATIONAL program for ever. We will again get who we want wherever they are period. Did you not know that we went head to head with 3 of the nations top linemen this year and last year and we won the recruiting battle. My point, our recruiting has been equal to the top CFB programs. Since we have one of the top NFL DEF coordinator as our DC. Add that to what Michigan is and has, none other compares. Not knocking any other school, but Michigan is very special.

    Sure you are loaded, and the signing rules have cut back on the oversigning which has pissed off nick satan.

    I respect BAMA, but I can't stand nick satan. I want you, the media and other fans to continue to tell our kids they don't have a chance, are not good enough, don't measure up, etc.

    Bama may with and will compete for the NC this year, but the season will be interesting!

    With that behind us, as I said, I respect BAMA and I'd have a beer and enjoy a game with any BAMA fan anytime. But any other SEC fan, stay away I can't stand the arrogance.

    Just beat the crap outta that SW georgia school, please killem!

    Saban signed a lot of kids when he first came because 1. We were coming off probation with a depleted roster 2.there was a ton of attrition with the new coach. The past three years, only once has bama signed more players than michigan...that was a class that michigan signed 20 and bama signed 23.

    I won't bother speaking on anything else.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • ReasonableDoubt said...

    Saban signed a lot of kids when he first came because 1. We were coming off probation with a depleted roster 2.there was a ton of attrition with the new coach. The past three years, only once has bama signed more players than michigan...that was a class that michigan signed 20 and bama signed 23.

    I won't bother speaking on anything else.

    Bama Fan video. They're nuts.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5921837/this-video-of-an-elderly-crimson-tide-fan-lip+synching-call-me-maybe-is-the-most-discomforting-thing-ever

    Uncle Newt

  • Uncle Newt said...

    Bama Fan video. They're nuts.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5921837/this-video-of-an-elderly-crimson-tide-fan-lip+synching-call-me-maybe-is-the-most-discomforting-thing-ever

    Lol, you win.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • Uncle Newt said...

    Bama Fan video. They're nuts.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5921837/this-video-of-an-elderly-crimson-tide-fan-lip+synching-call-me-maybe-is-the-most-discomforting-thing-ever

    so is this what happens in bama bolden1983? is he asking Phillip sims to call him, maybe? goblue

    Wolverines89

  • ReasonableDoubt said...

    Saban signed a lot of kids when he first came because 1. We were coming off probation with a depleted roster 2.there was a ton of attrition with the new coach. The past three years, only once has bama signed more players than michigan...that was a class that michigan signed 20 and bama signed 23.

    I won't bother speaking on anything else.

    What, you do not wish to face the facts of the SEC over signing. You cannot deny it! I am aware first hand of the over signing because of my connections in the sport at schools. Nick Satan ran bama and LSU like an NFL team in cutting schollies of kids who did not measure up. He tried skirting the rules while at Michigan State and was unable to stretch the rules in the Big Ten. He went to LSU and he stretched every rule possible.
    It is good for CFB that the SEC established over signing rules. This will pare back what the SEC has done and we see that with many SEC kids placing Michigan on their radar again. This is good for college football and it is exciting.
    BTW once the kids are dropped from scholarship or asked to do what ever, as long as the roster does not exceed 85 schollies come registration day any program can say they do not do this or that.
    These are indisputable facts and has been in the press regarding the over signing issues.
    These are a Nick Satan issue and he is not what he appears to be. He could not break rules in the NFL and win, he could not win at Moo U in East Landfill but he could not cheat. He went to LSU and the rest is history. Those are indisputable facts my friend!

    This post was edited by Maize N Blue on 6/29/2012 at 5:57 AM

    Maize N Blue

  • "The past three years, only once has bama signed more players than michigan..."

    This ^^^^ is a fact. You're only speaking in opinion, most of which makes no sense. Since we're speaking in opinion, I think Michigan will likely sign a bigger class than bama this year too. If that means Bama is oversigning, then Michigan must be oversigning.

    But I wouldn't want the truth to stop you from hating, so hate on.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by ReasonableDoubt on 6/29/2012 at 1:49 PM

    ReasonableDoubt

  • ReasonableDoubt said...

    "The past three years, only once has bama signed more players than michigan..."

    This ^^^^ is a fact. You're only speaking in opinion, most of which makes no sense. Since we're speaking in opinion, I think Michigan will likely sign a bigger class than bama this year too. If that means Bama is oversigning, then Michigan must be oversigning.

    But I wouldn't want the truth to stop you from hating, so hate on.

    Note that Michigan had a fairly depleted roster from a coaching transition, and roughly even recruiting numbers would imply that Saban is dumping players at about the rate as a program would lose during a acrimonious transition. The result is graphics like this:

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    bkp1883

  • bkp1883 said...

    Note that Michigan had a fairly depleted roster from a coaching transition, and roughly even recruiting numbers would imply that Saban is dumping players at about the rate as a program would lose during a acrimonious transition. The result is graphics like this:

    Theres a difference between coaching turnover and scholarship reductions...bama had both.

    Fwiw, I wasnt accusing michigan of oversigning bc u haven't. Saban has been at bama 5 years and only the first two classes were large. After that it has been on average less than 25.

    Even then, that number is nowhere near who make it onto campus due to grades, other sports... Many of those signees are counted multiple times times. Saban's first class ended up with around 27 kids (3 ended up in baseball and two didn't make grades)

    But this tangent has nothing to do with the game.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • freshone said...

    I don't want to imagine 140,000 in the House. That would mean that they took the 8 inches of butt space you get now down to 6.biggrin

    yea they get any smaller and a big mofo like me thats thick and almost 2' wide at the shoulders gona have to buy 3 tickets to go to a game lol

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  • Hoke Express said...

    yea they get any smaller and a big mofo like me thats thick and almost 2' wide at the shoulders gona have to buy 3 tickets to go to a game lol

    it wont interfere with the seating. they are thinking about making two upper decks at the end zones by the scoreboards

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    it wont interfere with the seating. they are thinking about making two upper decks at the end zones by the scoreboards

    ah ok, was just a little worries, like to go to atleast a few games a year but i'm a big guy and gota have some space lol

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  • Wolverines89 said...

    it wont interfere with the seating. they are thinking about making two upper decks at the end zones by the scoreboards

    Will it be a continuation of the bowl at the end zones, or will it be like what LSU's end zone seating in the pic looks like? I have read that Brandon wants to make the seating in the endzones as high as the current scoreboards.....the big house just keeps on getting better.

    This post was edited by Awink2 on 7/1/2012 at 2:21 PM

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  • bkp1883●.........I am also aware of that "little secret".........didn''t think it was out up there/or was seen and not identified.

    JHATL41892

  • Awink2 said...

    Will it be a continuation of the bowl at the end zones, or will it be like what LSU's end zone seating in the pic looks like? I have read that Brandon wants to make the seating in the endzones as high as the current scoreboards.....the big house just keeps on getting better.

    he wants to close off the 4 spaces between the scoreboards and the press boxes. yes the seats will be as high as the scoreboards. this might not happen but if somehow it did it will definitely be way down the road

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    he wants to close off the 4 spaces between the scoreboards and the press boxes. yes the seats will be as high as the scoreboards. this might not happen but if somehow it did it will definitely be way down the road

    I dont have a problem with that, but once the sections get high enough they need to eventually put seats where the current scoreboards are, then move the scoreboards back behind the last row where they currently are positioned. Oh, and in the process I think we will probably upgrade the scoreboards to be the biggest in the state. That is probably a solid 10-15 years away for moving the scoreboards back

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  • JH-ATL said...

    bkp1883●.........I am also aware of that "little secret".........didn''t think it was out up there/or was seen and not identified.

    Meh. Everyone's aware, its just very easy to get defensive about it, especially around outside fans who may just be looking to talk s***.

    On a side note, over the last year and a half, there has been a lot of comparisons between the pro and spread attacks. Saban and Alabama are basically the model for building a pro-style team, and with the foundational building along the lines with elite talent, Michigan is heading in that direction. You know (I'm assuming you are a Bama fan) that these things are cyclical, and in a few years, Michigan might be the new Alabama.

    bkp1883

  • bkp1883..........."cyclical".....so true..........people quickly forget the Bama years after 1993 NC and the Saban era..........."that was a long time down"...........with your fan base/stadium Michigan's new HC/recruiting you are definitely an on-the-way-up program............Bama's fan base are all excited about our JerryWorld game..........a little talk before just helps it get there quicker.

    JHATL41892

  • Wolverines89 said...

    so is this what happens in bama bolden1983? is he asking Phillip sims to call him, maybe? goblue

    lol I dont claim any part of that video
    That guy is a TARD for sure.

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