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  • Lol I'm just giving you shit

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    kylebennett7127

  • Bolden1983 said...

    Couple of really good JUCO transfers too. I believe we should win but with DR running the show you never know. Especially in the early part of the season where players arent used to game speed. DR always shows out the first 4 games of the year gets gameday and everyone else going crazy of his numbers and then slows down a bit. I really expect him to be a contained problem if you get my drift against us.

    EDIT*** Imagin me on our board trying to explain to a bunch of bama fans that theres a decent chance UM wins. Some arent liking it but I am backing it up with numbers. lol

    Yeah. That really is the thing. I don't think Alabama is going to light up the scoreboard, but they definitely have the size and athletic ability on defense to give Michigan fits.

    But you never stop paying attention when Denard has the ball in his hands, because he almost always has the option to pull it and take it himself. If you pay too much attention to him, you can get beat deep on the PA, or get beat at the line on the option. If you don't pay enough attention to him, you bite on the HB option or leave a gap open during the pass rush, and he's a TD waiting to happen.

    Add in the fact that he is in year two of this offense after a really difficult stretch at the end of last season, that he quite simply LIVES at a higher speed than just about anything else, and you are looking at an offense that can be really hard on overaggressive youth.

    And I would like to point out that teams that run a similar style as Alabama with the safety constantly rolling up had some success last year. So when Barron went to the pros, you really did lose the anti-Denard.

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  • bkp1883 said...

    Yeah. That really is the thing. I don't think Alabama is going to light up the scoreboard, but they definitely have the size and athletic ability on defense to give Michigan fits.

    But you never stop paying attention when Denard has the ball in his hands, because he almost always has the option to pull it and take it himself. If you pay too much attention to him, you can get beat deep on the PA, or get beat at the line on the option. If you don't pay enough attention to him, you bite on the HB option or leave a gap open during the pass rush, and he's a TD waiting to happen.

    Add in the fact that he is in year two of this offense after a really difficult stretch at the end of last season, that he quite simply LIVES at a higher speed than just about anything else, and you are looking at an offense that can be really hard on overaggressive youth.

    And I would like to point out that teams that run a similar style as Alabama with the safety constantly rolling up had some success last year. So when Barron went to the pros, you really did lose the anti-Denard.

    We have Robert Lester coming back and he is a stud. plus Vinnie Sunseri HaHa dix with 5 star Landon Collins coming in too. We are fine at safety. LB is going to be place to watch. We have Nico Johnson and Cj Mosely back with Trey DePriest too. I think we are smaller on D than last year but alot more athletic.

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  • Uncle Newt said...

    You beat Bama in the air not on the ground. We'll have to have an amazing balanced game plan from Borges.

    Bama wins with their ground game. Our new Dline is undersized so it will be tough.
    Look for Mattison to rotate personnel and penetrate the backfield. Need to win in turnover margin.

    We'll match up much better in a couple of years when Hoke's recruits are on the field but this team will have heart and come to play.

    It will be a good measuring stick for Hoke and Co.'s 2nd year of rebuilding.

    This really is the key. You have to have success with power running and you MUST pass the ball efficiently. Having a qb that makes quick decisions and gets rid of the ball quickly can hurt us.

    Bama is not invincible tho. Two years ago, I think bama may have been the most talented team in america but we lost three games...tho two of then were really close. Last year bama lost to lsu and I think we were better. I think we will be more talented than michigan, but that doesn't guarantee a win.

    Imo, I still think bama will be too strong in the trenches and wear michigan out.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • To be honest, bama will have the front four bull rush and leave no open lanes up the middle. They will sit back and force DR to beat them through the air or dare him to run.

    If DR can force bama to pass rush by hitting receivers, DR will open up the entire offense. If not, he will walk into the traps that the defense will set....and it'll end badly.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • thats what va tech and msu did with success except both those teams brought pressure as well from linebackers. Denard will have to prove he is a better qb in his senior year by making quick decisions and throwing accurately.

    quick passes getting yards will be a necessity, that will open the running game. I just hope all this practice on footwork will help. But then again, last year they tried to get him to understand the offense. This year they have practiced footwork and mechanics and I really hope it pays off. But I think our oline will be better as well, everyone is talking about how small they are but they will get a push. Those guys have logged a few games in and have gotten better and better.

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    kylebennett7127

  • Good thread to read. I agree from my persective with what seems to be the consensus on Michigan's D, OL & O. QB & RB are the definite strengths. Do not see much from the WRs so it will be hard to get a passing game going. Hard to pass against a Nick Saban D. Bama's OL is big and experienced and all of our RBs are good too, not just Lacey. QB won a NC but he is not a scrambler, hands off or passes, runs when all else fails. D has a good bit of experience, not as big as last year but a good bit faster.

    No team has won more games than Michigan. You have one of the storied programs. Our fan base is really looking forward to our match in JerryWorld. Two great teams, two great fan bases with most of the football fans in the nation watching. As a side note, "great for both" our recruiting!!!

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  • bkp1883 said...

    If you pay too much attention to him, you can get beat deep on the PA,

    i never seen denard throw a good deep ball. always overthrows it. they wont have to worry about getting beat deep. deep ball accuracy is something that denard is just never gonna have

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    i never seen denard throw a good deep ball. always overthrows it. they wont have to worry about getting beat deep. deep ball accuracy is something that denard is just never gonna have

    Denard makes a lot of nice throws in this highlight tape. It's from 2010 when he was really comfortable with the offense.

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    Denard Robinson 2010 Highlights - A Star i...

    I do not own any of the video or music used in this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/fT8KVMkjoco
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  • As an Irish fan I'm really excited for this game, I think it's going to be very close. I know mich is rebuilding their DL but who is DR going to throw to? Do you have any true WR's to stretch the field?
    Side note, seeing Michigan and U$C fan being so friendly makes me want to vomit. pukeface

    This post was edited by condoms USuCk on 6/15/2012 at 11:28 PM

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  • condoms USuCk said...

    As an Irish fan I'm really excited for this game, I think it's going to be very close. I know mich is rebuilding their DL but who is DR going to throw to? Do you have any true WR's to stretch the field? Side note, seeing Michigan and U$C fan being so friendly makes me want to vomit. pukeface

    im not trying to be a dick or anything but im pretty sure irish fans know who michigan has at receivers. gallon the guy who caught the ball with 15 seconds left in the notre dame game last year and roundtree who caught the game winning td

    Wolverines89

  • Wolverines89 said...

    im not trying to be a dick or anything but im pretty sure irish fans know who michigan has at receivers. gallon the guy who caught the ball with 15 seconds left in the notre dame game last year and roundtree who caught the game winning td

    Great observation. You're not...and you don't need one of what the Irish poster claims to have.

    This post was edited by Uncle Newt on 6/15/2012 at 11:41 PM

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  • Uncle Newt said...

    Great observation. You're not...and you don't need one of what the Irish poster claims to have.

    True, but nice to have a variety of outsiders input.

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  • kylebennett7127 said...

    Many southern fans(SEC) have zero respect for michigan and our history but I have been pleasantly surprised with the class alabama fans have shown in discussions about the game. I guess it comes from both of us having tradition and a winning percentage that others cant even fathom. With that said , there will be uneducated homers from both ends spewing useless facts and unbased and irrelevant information that isn't pertinent to this game. Lets hope this thread can continue to bring solid information, and answer questions we both have. SO lol, let me get off topic for one second and ask about Derrick Henry. If he does switch it gives us a small but viable chance at green

    Believe me when I tell you most avid Alabama fans I know have several opinions about Michigan football. We don't like Michigan because they are good and have a great tradition. To win the NC you have to contend with teams like Michigan. No one hates the bad teams, you kind of pull for them because they are the underdog. Michigan is one of the big boys of college football. They always have been and will continue to be so.

    When Alabama was trying to get RR as a coach I told my friends "he is not a good fit for Alabama". I felt the same when Michigan hired him "not a good fit for Michigan. Looking at it Alabama and Michigan are very similar, hard nosed defense, good running game, great tradition, avid fan base. RR didn't fit into what I considered Michigan football with his style of offense and the type of players required to run it.

    The knowledgeable Alabama fan has much respect for Michigan and feel it will be a tough game. We view Michigan much as we do Penn St, a more than worthy opponent any time you play them. We also feel Michigan is a recruiting class or two from being where you want to be. Our strength as a team (Offensive Line) is against the weakest part of the Michigan defense (DLine). Looking at the game from that viewpoint one has to give the edge to Alabama. We also realize with a player like Denard Robinson that Michigan is very dangerous and could very well win the game.

    Sometimes perception is not the facts, rest assured that Alabama has much respect for Michigan as a program, at the same time not liking them. Thinking about it, that is the way I want others to view Alabama. You just don't like rivals that can beat you anytime you play them. Good luck to Michigan after the Alabama game and I hope both teams come out of the game injury free. Please pay no attention to the Internet assholes of which all fan bases have their fair share.

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  • Cosmo3 said...

    +1 Appreciate the post. Good luck in Dallas.

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  • Bolden1983 said...

    No body thought Bama could do better than there 2008 recruiting class with Julio, Ingram ect ect. In my opinion our recruiting classes have gotten better every single year. Getting deeper and deeper with talent top to bottom with each class and filling extreme needs every single time.

    UM is doing this with Hoke and I expect UM and UA to have some big battles in the next 4-5 years. No matter if its a regular season game or a bowl. You are talking about probably 2 of the best all time programs in CFB existence. USC and ND are a couple of others. Recruiting is about to become a whole lot easier for UM and I am excited to watch yall beat the dog @#$% out of Ohio State for years to come. I cant stand the Buckeyes. Most over rated program next to Auburn I have ever seen.

    Always nice when two of CFB's superpowers can come together and hate on ohio, something many of us can agree on lol

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  • Cosmo3 said...

    Believe me when I tell you most avid Alabama fans I know have several opinions about Michigan football. We don't like Michigan because they are good and have a great tradition. To win the NC you have to contend with teams like Michigan. No one hates the bad teams, you kind of pull for them because they are the underdog. Michigan is one of the big boys of college football. They always have been and will continue to be so.

    When Alabama was trying to get RR as a coach I told my friends "he is not a good fit for Alabama". I felt the same when Michigan hired him "not a good fit for Michigan. Looking at it Alabama and Michigan are very similar, hard nosed defense, good running game, great tradition, avid fan base. RR didn't fit into what I considered Michigan football with his style of offense and the type of players required to run it.

    The knowledgeable Alabama fan has much respect for Michigan and feel it will be a tough game. We view Michigan much as we do Penn St, a more than worthy opponent any time you play them. We also feel Michigan is a recruiting class or two from being where you want to be. Our strength as a team (Offensive Line) is against the weakest part of the Michigan defense (DLine). Looking at the game from that viewpoint one has to give the edge to Alabama. We also realize with a player like Denard Robinson that Michigan is very dangerous and could very well win the game.

    Sometimes perception is not the facts, rest assured that Alabama has much respect for Michigan as a program, at the same time not liking them. Thinking about it, that is the way I want others to view Alabama. You just don't like rivals that can beat you anytime you play them. Good luck to Michigan after the Alabama game and I hope both teams come out of the game injury free. Please pay no attention to the Internet assholes of which all fan bases have their fair share.

    wow! imagine bama got RR. seeing bama go down in flames with RR will be crazy. cant even imagine that. i just wish another team can feel what michigan felt in those three years. i dont think anyone can even come close to know what was going on in the michigan fan base. RR was perfect at WV. I think hes gonna be very good at arizona but has no business being at UM, bama, usc, texas, ND. he should stay away from the big ten and sec. i know alot of people have hate for the sec and bama but i have no problem with them or lsu. i dont root for them or against them strictly neutral. the only team i hate from the sec is georgia. they get over hyped every year and dont produce. theres nothing to hate about bama unless your a person who just has hate for any team thats successful. they have a great coach recruit good and produce every year. michigan wont win this game but i hope they some how schedule another game between um/bama in 3-4 years. now that will be a great game once hoke gets in all his players.

    Wolverines89

  • Theres a possibility that RR may have been successful at Bama, contingent on him being able to recruit a solid defense down there....with that being said, in a strange way RR may have been the best thing to happen to Michigan. He was the catalyst for what is about to come.

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  • Awink2 said...

    Theres a possibility that RR may have been successful at Bama, contingent on him being able to recruit a solid defense down there....with that being said, in a strange way RR may have been the best thing to happen to Michigan. He was the catalyst for what is about to come.

    I think it was more about coaching the defense than recruiting. Michigan got worse defensively every year under RR but with Hoke and Mattison last year they were solid.

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  • Awink2 said...

    Theres a possibility that RR may have been successful at Bama, contingent on him being able to recruit a solid defense down there....with that being said, in a strange way RR may have been the best thing to happen to Michigan. He was the catalyst for what is about to come.

    yeah i give RR credit. because of him UM has a coach that is in love with the school and is at his dream job now and cause of RR we went out and got million dollar coordinators. something good came out of it. rise before the fall and now back on the rise

    Wolverines89

  • Cosmo3 said...

    Believe me when I tell you most avid Alabama fans I know have several opinions about Michigan football. We don't like Michigan because they are good and have a great tradition. To win the NC you have to contend with teams like Michigan. No one hates the bad teams, you kind of pull for them because they are the underdog. Michigan is one of the big boys of college football. They always have been and will continue to be so.

    When Alabama was trying to get RR as a coach I told my friends "he is not a good fit for Alabama". I felt the same when Michigan hired him "not a good fit for Michigan. Looking at it Alabama and Michigan are very similar, hard nosed defense, good running game, great tradition, avid fan base. RR didn't fit into what I considered Michigan football with his style of offense and the type of players required to run it.

    The knowledgeable Alabama fan has much respect for Michigan and feel it will be a tough game. We view Michigan much as we do Penn St, a more than worthy opponent any time you play them. We also feel Michigan is a recruiting class or two from being where you want to be. Our strength as a team (Offensive Line) is against the weakest part of the Michigan defense (DLine). Looking at the game from that viewpoint one has to give the edge to Alabama. We also realize with a player like Denard Robinson that Michigan is very dangerous and could very well win the game.

    Sometimes perception is not the facts, rest assured that Alabama has much respect for Michigan as a program, at the same time not liking them. Thinking about it, that is the way I want others to view Alabama. You just don't like rivals that can beat you anytime you play them. Good luck to Michigan after the Alabama game and I hope both teams come out of the game injury free. Please pay no attention to the Internet assholes of which all fan bases have their fair share.

    +1

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    kylebennett7127

  • Only 3 ways we win this game.

    1.)Denard has the best game of his life

    2.) our defense has the best game ever and wins the turnover battle

    3.) Alabama's team comes down with the flu the night before the game.pray

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  • phillipwarren05 said...

    I'm a life long michigan fan and for me its going to come down to two things for us to be able to pull the upset. 1) we have to stop the run-- our dline is a work in progress and a little undersized. 2) we have to come up with 3 big plays-- i'm personally thinking a breakaway possibly busted offensive play with denard taking it to the house, an interception or fumble recovery, and a big time special teams play anything from blocking a punt or field goal to returning a punt or kick for a td. As to what I'm hanging my hat on in this game well for starters its denard robinson he is the constant mismatch so with him on the field we always have a chance. The other thing I am hanging my hat on is our defense. I know our dline is inexperienced, unproven, and undersized but our back 7 is top 10 caliber in the country. I believe we can hold our own defending the pass but it all comes down to stopping lacey and that crimson tide running game.

    Did you see what B Miller did too your back 7? Top 10 smh your deff cord is a beast but your schedule will be harder I think your fan base is semi delisuional

    TRU JDUB

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  • TRU JDUB said...

    Did you see what B Miller did too your back 7? Top 10 smh your deff cord is a beast but your schedule will be harder I think your fan base is semi delisuional

    You must know a ton about football...There were eight men in the box the entire game to stop the run. You threw the ball three times all year and realized you could not beat us, so you came up with a gameplan to air it out against man coverage the whole game and posey beat a few guys. However, countess was a freshman and will be much better and talbot or Avery will take over for Floyd. so yeah they will be better

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