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2014 Recruiting Thread (Updated 03.20.2013)

  • inuyesta said...

    Anyway, TomVH says that this probably isn't a strict "plan" as much as it is something they're hoping for and sort of just saying. So, maybe this discussion is moot.

    Yup, this is the case.

    I have plenty on Speight today and can clear up some of the confusion.

    Steve Lorenz

  • #Michigan has offered 2014 Falcon, CO Ath, Kalen Ballage. 6-2, 215, 4.36

    Wow... 6-2, 215, and a 4.36 fake forty?! Those are eye-popping numbers regardless of being a RB, WR, CB, S, or heck even a LB.

    Dizzo

  • Dizzo said...

    #Michigan has offered 2014 Falcon, CO Ath, Kalen Ballage. 6-2, 215, 4.36

    Wow... 6-2, 215, and a 4.36 fake forty?! Those are eye-popping numbers regardless of being a RB, WR, CB, S, or heck even a LB.

    I remember we had a discussion about him a month or two back. His competition is awful, and none of us were sure where he'd fit best. Then again, you can't teach those measurables. Hopefully the coaches will be able to hone in on that athletic ability and make something special out of him, if he does wind up at Michigan.

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  • Dizzo said...

    #Michigan has offered 2014 Falcon, CO Ath, Kalen Ballage. 6-2, 215, 4.36

    Wow... 6-2, 215, and a 4.36 fake forty?! Those are eye-popping numbers regardless of being a RB, WR, CB, S, or heck even a LB.

    That 40 may be a little off but based of his track numbers it may not be off by much. His fastest 100m was 10.93 thats flying for a dude who is 215 pounds. For some comparison Jehu Chesson's fastest time for the 100m was 10.70 in high school.

    Kalen Ballage - Track and Field Profile

    Kalen Ballage - Track Field stats and photos on Athletic.net

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    HelloHeisman 21

  • It says a lot that he's gotten the offer when they've been out to see who knows how many kids the last couple weeks with only a couple offers. I'll have a reaction from him tonight.

    Steve Lorenz

  • This player committed to UM track had D1 Football offer

    @JShankerESPN: Solon (Ohio) WR Khoury Crenshaw commits to #Michigan for track. Held football offers from #Purdue #Akron #KentState #UMass 06:08PM

    Khoury Crenshaw

    http://247sports.com/Player/Khoury-Crenshaw-21508

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    Khoury Crenshaw - Solon, Ohio High School

    #21 - RB/DB Highlights: 2010 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/v/_71jjHauiJg

    SKWDCOP

  • SKWDCOP said...

    This player committed to UM track had D1 Football offer

    @JShankerESPN: Solon (Ohio) WR Khoury Crenshaw commits to #Michigan for track. Held football offers from #Purdue #Akron #KentState #UMass 06:08PM

    Would he consider walking onto the football team, possibly return specialist?

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    Awink2

  • Crazy #s to say the least.

    Im trusting Hoke and Co. with the talent evaluation anyway so if they offer he must be special!

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  • 2014 Offer according to his mom

    Osa Masina RB/OLB (Athlete) - No 24/7 profile or data that I can find.

    mommamasina Congrats Osa Masina on #Michigan coaches meeting with hs Coach and offering. THANKS Coach Hoke. 2015 ATH @OS_tertag 11:12AM

    Osa Masina - Football Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

    Learn about Osa Masina and other recruit player profiles on RecruitingNation.com.

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    Osa Masina 2012 Mid-Season Soph Year Playing Varsity Defense Linebacker for Brighton High School in Salt Lake City, UT Football Class of 2015

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    SKWDCOP

  • Awink2 said...

    Would he consider walking onto the football team, possibly return specialist?

    Wouldn't the scholarship be counted towards football then?

    MaizeKC

  • MaizeKC said...

    Wouldn't the scholarship be counted towards football then?

    Yes it would.

    SKWDCOP

  • SKWDCOP said...

    This player committed to UM track had D1 Football offer

    @JShankerESPN: Solon (Ohio) WR Khoury Crenshaw commits to #Michigan for track. Held football offers from #Purdue #Akron #KentState #UMass 06:08PM

    I have a friend who works with the Solon track team. He said Khoury is, if not THE fastest kid in Ohio, at least in the top 3.

    He said Khoury would most likely end up at DB, if anything, but that he is, and I quote, "a freak of a sprinter." I think Khoury definitely recognized that his future is in track, not football, so I wouldn't count on the coaches ever really showing interest in him. Maybe if track doesn't work out for some reason, and we have an extra scholarship, but I doubt anything will come of it.

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  • SKWDCOP said...

    Yes it would.

    Why would he be counted as a football scholarship if he walked on for football and still met the criteria for track? I never understood the classifications for dual sport athletes. I always thought as long as you meet your obligations in your primary sport and cleared it with the coaches you could walk on for another sport.

    pappy121

  • pappy121 said...

    Why would he be counted as a football scholarship if he walked on for football and still met the criteria for track? I never understood the classifications for dual sport athletes. I always thought as long as you meet your obligations in your primary sport and cleared it with the coaches you could walk on for another sport.

    It is a tricky web, and I'll have to research it - may be a matter if they ever recruited him at football, if not it may be okay...but there are NCAA rules that prohibit stockpiling players via other sports as a way around scholarship limits.

    SKWDCOP

  • pappy121 said...

    Why would he be counted as a football scholarship if he walked on for football and still met the criteria for track? I never understood the classifications for dual sport athletes. I always thought as long as you meet your obligations in your primary sport and cleared it with the coaches you could walk on for another sport.

    It's a mechanism to prevent teams from getting extra schollies. If a player has an athletic scholarship (doesn't matter what sport) and plays football it is counted against football's 85. Otherwise, you'd see football teams giving track or basketball (Harris) or other scholarships to players to get over the 85 limit.

    This post was edited by Ansky712 on 2/1/2013 at 11:20 AM

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  • pappy121 said...

    Why would he be counted as a football scholarship if he walked on for football and still met the criteria for track? I never understood the classifications for dual sport athletes. I always thought as long as you meet your obligations in your primary sport and cleared it with the coaches you could walk on for another sport.

    From wiki

    Rules for multi-sport athletesThe NCAA also has rules specifying the sport in which multi-sport athletes are to be counted, with the basic rules being:[25]

    Anyone who participates in football is counted in that sport, even if he does not receive financial aid from the football program. An exception exists for players at non-scholarship FCS programs who receive aid in another sport.[26]
    Participants in basketball are counted in that sport, unless they also play football.
    Participants in men's ice hockey are counted in that sport, unless they also play football or basketball.
    Participants in both men's swimming and diving and men's water polo are counted in swimming and diving, unless they count in football or basketball.
    Participants in women's volleyball are counted in that sport unless they also play basketball.
    All other multi-sport athletes are counted in whichever sport the school chooses.

    Division I (NCAA) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_I_(NCAA)

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    SKWDCOP

  • OK thanks. I can see the point. However, it is kind of hypocritical to let a football player run track or do a field event but not let a track guy maintain his primary sport.

    pappy121

  • pappy121 said...

    OK thanks. I can see the point. However, it is kind of hypocritical to let a football player run track or do a field event but not let a track guy maintain his primary sport.

    It's basically a hierarchy based on what sports make the most money for schools. I don't think it's perfect, but it's the best system we've got so far, and football is one of the few sports where saving scholarships and stashing players on other teams would be abused like crazy.

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  • pappy121 said...

    OK thanks. I can see the point. However, it is kind of hypocritical to let a football player run track or do a field event but not let a track guy maintain his primary sport.

    The track guy can run track and receive a scholarship for it. He is not harmed in the least. But if he wants to play football as a second sport, the scholarship counts as a football scholarship instead. But he can run track all he wants. And they have to do it that way or Alabama would suddenly have a men's air rifle team full of 6'6" 300 lb sharp shooters.

    MrWoodson

  • MrWoodson said...

    And they have to do it that way or Alabama would suddenly have a men's air rifle team full of 6'6" 300 lb sharp shooters.

    roflmao

    Michigan_Fan

  • MrWoodson said...

    And they have to do it that way or Alabama would suddenly have a men's air rifle team full of 6'6" 300 lb sharp shooters.

    lollllllllll

    inuyesta

  • Tom VanHaaren ‏@TomVH
    Spoke with 2014 DE @LCarter_25, he said @DavidDawson_ is already recruiting him

    Michmania

  • Michmania said...

    Tom VanHaaren ‏@TomVH Spoke with 2014 DE @LCarter_25, he said @DavidDawson_ is already recruiting him

    F'n right he is goblue

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    Moon

  • Anybody heard anything about Moe Ways recently?

    bkp1883

  • Looks like Mason Cole has interest in Clemson

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