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  • sircharles11 said...

    True but Shane comes off bad IMO, the 5* ranking kind of went to his head. He has alot to show me

    If he lets it get to his head, then I'm excited to watch Speight for a bunch of years. Fine either way.

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  • It just sucks for these kids coming out of high school because they were so highly praised and web they get to college realize the challenge they never had to face in high school.
    One thing that I am not worried about with Shane is the limelight getting to his head web he gets to college. In every camp he was in he also came in with a chip on his shoulder to try and prove that he deserves to be mentioned with the top QBs in the country. I was glad when he didn't make the elite 11 because it kind of opened his eyes to realize that he still has a lot of work to do. He will be a vocal leader at Michigan and I really do think he has potential to be remembered at Michigan. That is if he is up to the challenge at hand.

    Mblue4life

  • Ducksworth said...

    If he lets it get to his head, then I'm excited to watch Speight for a bunch of years. Fine either way.

    Hey Ducks have you watched the Gardner interview Rabid posted? Last year I remember us talking about Gardner and you mentioned his odd throwing motion. Does it look like his throwing motion has gotten better in that video?

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  • Rabid said...

    Awesome interview. He really seems to be embracing the role as a QB and a leader of the team. I think he's going to be a media darling - he's well-spoken, great smile, jokes around, and he says all the right things without having to pause to think about it. I'm really glad we've got someone like him to come in and take over as QB - really puts my mind at ease for the upcoming season.

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  • WillyWolverine said...

    Hey Ducks have you watched the Gardner interview Rabid posted? Last year I remember us talking about Gardner and you mentioned his odd throwing motion. Does it look like his throwing motion has gotten better in that video?

    To me it looked better. I'm far from an expert though, it was just a personal observation from last year.

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  • Ducksworth said...

    To me it looked better. I'm far from an expert though, it was just a personal observation from last year.

    Yeah i thought so too. He definetly had an odd motion last year. I thought it looked a little better in the first practice video but we only saw a couple throws so i didn't really think anything of it. But with this video it looks like him and Borges have been working on it. I just wanted to get your opinion to see if i wasn't the only one that noticed it being a bit better.

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  • CMXI said...

    Awesome interview. He really seems to be embracing the role as a QB and a leader of the team. I think he's going to be a media darling - he's well-spoken, great smile, jokes around, and he says all the right things without having to pause to think about it. I'm really glad we've got someone like him to come in and take over as QB - really puts my mind at ease for the upcoming season.

    I hardly ever watch full interviews with players but Devin cracks me up.

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  • CMXI said...

    Awesome interview. He really seems to be embracing the role as a QB and a leader of the team. I think he's going to be a media darling - he's well-spoken, great smile, jokes around, and he says all the right things without having to pause to think about it. I'm really glad we've got someone like him to come in and take over as QB - really puts my mind at ease for the upcoming season.

    ...and great teeth

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  • ...and rock solid abs and dreamy eyes and...

    wait, what?

    inuyesta

  • inuyesta said...

    ...and rock solid abs and dreamy eyes and...

    wait, what?

    Just say no homo so we know the deal!

    UMichYank11

  • inuyesta said...

    ...and rock solid abs and dreamy eyes and...

    wait, what?

    Hilarious

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  • Mblue4life said...

    "@S_Morris12: All the kids who pay thousands of dollars for QB training crack me up..Hard work and dedication will take you a lot further than money will"

    Next tweet

    "@S_Morris12: But hell if you're blessed to have that kinda money, then by all means spend it. Just saying kids think they need it, and they don't."

    I can't tell if it was directly towards Speight. He explains to a person who commented back

    "@S_Morris12: @wolverinefolife not at all... Just saying young kids think they need it these days because of what people tell them."

    Pretty much a dumb statement by Morris. Every top college QB goes to a "professional" to get tips to get better. Hell, Peyton Manning went to see Duke coach David Cutcliffe before the season last year to work on getting back.

    Michmania

  • Michmania said...

    Pretty much a dumb statement by Morris. Every top college QB goes to a "professional" to get tips to get better. Hell, Peyton Manning went to see Duke coach David Cutcliffe before the season last year to work on getting back.

    I agree, dumb by Morris. Seriously I wish I was able to be around some top level coaching when I was growing up. The better coaching you have, the better your chances are at being successful.

    johnzo19

  • Michmania said...

    Pretty much a dumb statement by Morris. Every top college QB goes to a "professional" to get tips to get better. Hell, Peyton Manning went to see Duke coach David Cutcliffe before the season last year to work on getting back.

    I wouldn't call his statements as dumb, it's an opinion. For one, can anyone say for sure that the margin of improvement bw a HS kid who pays a professional to work on their game vs someone who uses the resources immediately around them is that big that the professional work is indeed worth the money? It's like Kaplan and paying for sat classes. Is that money spent that big of an advantage vs going online and finding exactly what to study for yourself?

    Secondly, Shane is going to get a lot of work in college The coaches will tell him exactly what he needs to work on which is likely the same instruction he will get from the professional.

    I think Shane's point is valid. The professionals providing their service isn't doing it for charity, it's a business. They are selling their business telling kids they need to work on x, y, and z. This may indeed be true but is a professional needed to rectify the issues? Peyton in football, tiger with his swing coach, Jeter has a batting coach but all of those guys are professionals already with money to spend. They are ready at the top of their profession so the smallest improvement means a lot more to them. Where as with HS kids, they will all benefit greatly from college coaching, getting professional help won't give that much more of an advantage over what they get in college because they simply have so much to learn anyway.

    This post was edited by Luger on 3/21/2013 at 1:12 PM

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  • Luger said...

    I wouldn't call his statements as dumb, it's an opinion. For one, can anyone say for sure that the margin of improvement bw a HS kid who pays a professional to work on their game vs someone who uses the resources immediately around them is that big that the professional work is indeed worth the money? It's like Kaplan and paying for sat classes. Is that money spent that big of an advantage vs going online and finding exactly what to study for yourself?

    Secondly, Shane is going to get a lot of work in college The coaches will tell him exactly what he needs to work on which is likely the same instruction he will get from the professional.

    I think Shane's point is valid. The professionals providing their service isn't doing it for charity, it's a business. They are selling their business telling kids they need to work on x, y, and z. This may indeed be true but is a professional needed to rectify the issues? Peyton in football, tiger with his swing coach, Jeter has a batting coach but all of those guys are professionals already with money to spend. They are ready at the top of their profession so the smallest improvement means a lot more to them. Where as with HS kids, they will all benefit greatly from college coaching, getting professional help won't give that much more of an advantage over what they get in college because they simply have so much to learn anyway.

    Do you think Shane Morris' statements were dumb?

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  • Mitch Again said...

    Do you think Shane Morris' statements were dumb?

    No, there was some truth in what he said.

    Luger

  • Luger said...

    No, there was some truth in what he said.

    How? I bet if he gets a chance to play in the NFL and before his combine/pro day I bet 100% he finds a professional coach to help him with minor improvements

    Michmania

  • Michmania said...

    Pretty much a dumb statement by Morris. Every top college QB goes to a "professional" to get tips to get better. Hell, Peyton Manning went to see Duke coach David Cutcliffe before the season last year to work on getting back.

    I'm happy to defend Shane here. What he's saying is that spending $$$ on coaching doesn't make up for hard work. He's also saying if you can afford top coaching great go for it but don't let a lack of $$$ stop you from putting in the hard work to reach your dreams. I certainly agree with that.

    If there is anything that could be considered dumb, it's is a bunch of fans criticizing a guy like Shane who's put in the work to get where he is today. Who are we to criticize. Other than Clint I don't think there are any college level QBs on this board. Shane still has work to do but he's the kind of kid that is respectful to the program and those that played before him and who will work his butt off everyday to get a chance to start in the Big House.

    He'll also get plenty of coaching at Michigan and as some have said he'll take advantage of additional coaching if the opportunity is there.

    I hear Trent Dilfer is available. roflmao

    Uncle Newt

  • Michmania said...

    How? I bet if he gets a chance to play in the NFL and before his combine/pro day I bet 100% he finds a professional coach to help him with minor improvements

    Guess you didn't get a chance to read my explanation. I agree that professionals seek help because the smallest tweak can make differences. But HS going to college, there are no small tweaks, the tweaks are all rather substantial because jumping to college from HS you have a large gap to what you do and dont know and the coaching you are bound to receive.

    This post was edited by Luger on 3/21/2013 at 4:34 PM

    Luger

  • Luger said...

    Guess you didn't get a chance to read my explanation. I agree that professionals seek help because the smallest tweak can make differences. But HS going to college, there are no small tweaks, the tweaks are all rather substantial because jumping to college from HS you have a large gap to what you do and dont know and the coaching you are bound to receive.

    So you don't think that a high school kid already getting those "bigger" tweaks will already have an advantage going into college. Most of these highly rated high school kids are already dreaming of playing in the NFL and if they believe they can get any advantage before the college level go ahead.

    Michmania

  • Shane Morris ‏@S_Morris12 14h
    The number I'm going to wear at Michigan is awesome, has a lot of history behind it!

    Any guesses? Judging by the current Spring roster, the two numbers that jump out to me are 7 (Henne, Henson) and 14 (Griese) in terms of QBs. Or of course 16, but I don't consider Denard as being "history" just yet.

    Dizzo

  • Dizzo said...

    Shane Morris ‏@S_Morris12 14h The number I'm going to wear at Michigan is awesome, has a lot of history behind it!

    Any guesses? Judging by the current Spring roster, the two numbers that jump out to me are 7 (Henne, Henson) and 14 (Griese) in terms of QBs. Or of course 16, but I don't consider Denard as being "history" just yet.

    #4 Jim Harbaugh is my guess.

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  • Dizzo said...

    Shane Morris ‏@S_Morris12 14h The number I'm going to wear at Michigan is awesome, has a lot of history behind it!

    Any guesses? Judging by the current Spring roster, the two numbers that jump out to me are 7 (Henne, Henson) and 14 (Griese) in terms of QBs. Or of course 16, but I don't consider Denard as being "history" just yet.

    #1 biggrin

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    sircharles11

  • WillyWolverine said...

    #4 Jim Harbaugh is my guess.

    This was/is my guess also. I also think 10 could be the number if they let Gallon wear #21 this year

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  • victorsclub said...

    This was/is my guess also. I also think 10 could be the number if they let Gallon wear #21 this year

    I could see this happening. 7 is also possible/likely

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