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2012 NFL Draft WRs - Something to think about.

  • I know a lot of people are worried about the lack of "playmakers" we are bringing in at WR. Well, the kids we have committed all have talent, and it's up to the coaches to develop those skills.

    I'd call these guys all playmakers in college...

    Round (overall selection), High School Ranking

    1 (5) - Justin Blackmon: 3 Star, #91 WR
    1 (13) - Michael Floyd : 5 Star , #6 WR
    1 (20) - Kendall Wright: 3 Star, #64 ATH
    1 (30) - AJ Jenkins: 3 Star, #53 WR
    2 (33) - Brian Quick: No Star Rating, NR
    2 (43) - Stephen Hill: 3 Star, #99 WR
    2 (45) - Alshon Jeffrey: 4 Star, #13 WR
    2 (54) - Ryan Broyles: 4 Star, #11 CB
    2 (63) - Reuben Randle : 5 star, #1 WR
    3 (68) - Devier Posey : 5 Star, #3 WR
    3 (69) - TJ Graham: 2 Star, NR
    3 (83) - Mohamed Sanu: 3 Star, #74 S
    3 (92) - TY Hilton: 2 Star, NR

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    Clarkw267

  • Clarkw267 said...

    I know a lot of people are worried about the lack of "playmakers" we are bringing in at WR. Well, the kids we have committed all have talent, and it's up to the coaches to develop those skills.

    I'd call these guys all playmakers in college...

    Round (overall selection), High School Ranking

    1 (5) - Justin Blackmon: 3 Star, #91 WR 1 (13) - Michael Floyd : 5 Star , #6 WR 1 (20) - Kendall Wright: 3 Star, #64 ATH 1 (30) - AJ Jenkins: 3 Star, #53 WR 2 (33) - Brian Quick: No Star Rating, NR 2 (43) - Stephen Hill: 3 Star, #99 WR 2 (45) - Alshon Jeffrey: 4 Star, #13 WR 2 (54) - Ryan Broyles: 4 Star, #11 CB 2 (63) - Reuben Randle : 5 star, #1 WR 3 (68) - Devier Posey : 5 Star, #3 WR 3 (69) - TJ Graham: 2 Star, NR 3 (83) - Mohamed Sanu: 3 Star, #74 S 3 (92) - TY Hilton: 2 Star, NR

    Nice work. Any idea on height/weight/40 from their respective combines?

    hardware_sushi

  • clap Thanks for putting this together! Stars definitely don't matter, and I'm excited to see what this class of WRs does!

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    Ducksworth

  • Too small of a sample size, and not an accurate sample. The focus should be actual starters or contributors in the NFL, not who was drafted.

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    Awink2

  • Awink2 said...

    Too small of a sample size, and not an accurate sample. The focus should be actual starters or contributors in the NFL, not who was drafted.

    I disagree with the bolded.

    How they performed in the NFL has little to do with whether they were playmakers in college.

    Every single player on Clark's list was at least a very good (if not great) WR at the college level which is why they were drafted.

    However, I think his list would carry more weight if he didn't just focus on one draft and expanded it to include the previous 5-7 drafts. But I get the impression that previous drafts would resemble the most recent draft and, therefore, would merely strengthen Clark's point.

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  • Awink2 said...

    Too small of a sample size, and not an accurate sample. The focus should be actual starters or contributors in the NFL, not who was drafted.

    lol

    Not an accurate sample?

    I didn't list one guy. That's the entire first 3 rounds of the draft. And you have 8 guys who weren't in the top 50 at their position going into college.

    Also... why does what they do in the NFL matter? We're talking about college football. Those guys were drafted off of what they did in college. That's the point.

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    Clarkw267

  • Clarkw267 said...

    I know a lot of people are worried about the lack of "playmakers" we are bringing in at WR. Well, the kids we have committed all have talent, and it's up to the coaches to develop those skills.

    I'd call these guys all playmakers in college...

    Round (overall selection), High School Ranking

    1 (5) - Justin Blackmon: 3 Star, #91 WR
    1 (13) - Michael Floyd : 5 Star , #6 WR
    1 (20) - Kendall Wright: 3 Star, #64 ATH
    1 (30) - AJ Jenkins: 3 Star, #53 WR
    2 (33) - Brian Quick: No Star Rating, NR
    2 (43) - Stephen Hill: 3 Star, #99 WR
    2 (45) - Alshon Jeffrey: 4 Star, #13 WR
    2 (54) - Ryan Broyles: 4 Star, #11 CB
    2 (63) - Reuben Randle : 5 star, #1 WR
    3 (68) - Devier Posey : 5 Star, #3 WR
    3 (69) - TJ Graham: 2 Star, NR
    3 (83) - Mohamed Sanu: 3 Star, #74 S
    3 (92) - TY Hilton: 2 Star, NR

    Recruiting isn't the end all be all, but the higher ranked kids hit more often than the lower ranked kids.

    That list has,
    5*, 3 guys
    4*, 2 guys
    3*, 5 guys
    2*, 2 guys
    UR, 1 guy

    I asked a sparty a similar question on a similar topic on tBB, how many 5*, 4*, 3*... kids were there available? There is a better hit rate with higher ranked kids.

    What service were you using?

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Recruiting isn't the end all be all, but the higher ranked kids hit more often than the lower ranked kids.

    That list has, 5*, 3 guys 4*, 2 guys 3*, 5 guys 2*, 2 guys UR, 1 guy

    I asked a sparty a similar question on a similar topic on tBB, how many 5*, 4*, 3*... kids were there available? There is a better hit rate with higher ranked kids.

    What service were you using?

    Rivals.... 247 is relatively new and doesn't have the full rankings for those classes.

    Also of course there is a higher hit rate on 5 stars. There are far less of them and all you need is 1 or 2 to work out to produce an equal or better hit rate.

    The thing is that our coaches have shown they can identify talent. They aren't just offering kids to offer them.

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    Clarkw267

  • I kind of agree with both sides here. The higher rated kids do pan out at a higher clip than low ranked but just because we don't have any high ranked wr's doesn't mean that none of them will become playmakers.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Recruiting isn't the end all be all, but the higher ranked kids hit more often than the lower ranked kids.

    That list has, 5*, 3 guys 4*, 2 guys 3*, 5 guys 2*, 2 guys UR, 1 guy

    I asked a sparty a similar question on a similar topic on tBB, how many 5*, 4*, 3*... kids were there available? There is a better hit rate with higher ranked kids.

    What service were you using?

    And add this into the mix:

    # of receivers by stars:

    5* three receivers
    4* forty receivers
    3* hundreds of receivers

    The probability of a 5* or high 4* panning out like that is much, much higher than a middling 3*.

    What percentage of 3* WR recruits turn into all BCS conference performers? 5%, I'm guessing.

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  • bkp1883 said...

    And add this into the mix:

    # of receivers by stars:

    5* three receivers 4* forty receivers 3* hundreds of receivers

    The probability of a 5* or high 4* panning out like that is much, much higher than a middling 3*.

    What percentage of 3* WR recruits turn into all BCS conference performers? 5%, I'm guessing.

    But the you have to factor in who wanted those "3 stars"

    Art Briles brought in two WRs one a mid 3 star, the other a unranked 2 star and turned them into 2 likely 1st round NFL picks (Kendall Wright, Terrance Williams)

    Success stories happen more often where there is good coaching involved.

    I'm confident that our staff can and will get the best out of our guys, and York, Dukes, and Jones all have talent.

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  • Clarkw267 said...

    But the you have to factor in who wanted those "3 stars"

    Art Briles brought in two WRs one a mid 3 star, the other a unranked 2 star and turned them into 2 likely 1st round NFL picks (Kendall Wright, Terrance Williams)

    Success stories happen more often where there is good coaching involved.

    I'm confident that our staff can and will get the best out of our guys, and York, Dukes, and Jones all have talent.

    Well. If you think this staff has successfully identified three productive Big 10 wr that no other B!G or BCS school offered, you hold this group in exceptionally high regard.

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  • bkp1883 said...

    Well. If you think this staff has successfully identified three productive Big 10 wr that no other B!G or BCS school offered, you hold this group in exceptionally high regard.

    You realize that York and Dukes both have offers from the B1G right?

    Cincinnati and Syracuse went to the MAC as well.. must have missed that.

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    Clarkw267

  • Clarkw267 said...

    You realize that York and Dukes both have offers from the B1G right?

    Cincinnati and Syracuse went to the MAC as well.. must have missed that.

    York had offers from Cincy and Syracuse. Dukes had an offer from Illinois.

    Fair enough.

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  • Clarkw267 said...

    lol

    Not an accurate sample?

    I didn't list one guy. That's the entire first 3 rounds of the draft. And you have 8 guys who weren't in the top 50 at their position going into college.

    Also... why does what they do in the NFL matter? We're talking about college football. Those guys were drafted off of what they did in college. That's the point.

    Thanks for the reply. I now realize that the thread was intended to juxtapose college production based on star rating in high school to where they were drafted. I thought that the OP was trying to compare star rating to actual production in the NFL, thus highlighting were certain players were drafted was erroneous to their NFL production under that circumstance.

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    Awink2

  • Awink2 said...

    Thanks for the reply. I now realize that the thread was intended to juxtapose college production based on star rating in high school to where they were drafted. I thought that the OP was trying to compare star rating to actual production in the NFL, thus highlighting were certain players were drafted was erroneous to their NFL production under that circumstance.

    I gotcha.

    No although off the top of my head I thought of some guys that I didn't think were highly recruited coming out, and looked them up.

    Marques Colston - (rankings unavailable, Missouri only D1 offer)
    Brandon Marshall - (2 Star, #76 ATH)
    Steve Smith - (rankings unavailable, No D1 offers out of HS)
    Victor Cruz - (2 Star, NR WR)
    Greg Jennings - (2001 class, rankings unavailable, 11th best player in MI by Freep)
    Jordy Nelson - (2 Star, NR S)
    Demaryius Thomas - (3 Star, #58 WR)

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