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Wisconsin doesn't have much competition now. It would take a pretty big let down for them to not end up in the CCG.

Sparty is a different story. They honestly believe the last 2 years means they will win the CCG and go to the Rose Bowl this year. Hell some of them even think they are legitimate national title contenders. They feel Dantonio can take any player in the country and make him good.

Players graduate and leave. It's not the same team. I don't understand this thinking.

Who cares what MSU thinks. They are not worth my time. Wisconsin? They are lucky their division is in shambles.

I'm tired of seeing Wisconsin in the rose bowl .. come on Blue .. this is your year

Thats fine, im just saying until Michigan beats them I don't think it's crazy to assume MSU is the favorite. Just because they lost Cousins and their wideouts does not mean there not going to be good this year, They still return the nucleus of an oustanding defense and Dantonio has built them up to the point where they can asborb those losses(Cousins etc) and still be really good the following year. MSU is going to be good this year and anybody thinking they won't are kidding themselves, even if they don't win the big ten title this year then I expect that they still will be in the running for a BCS at large bid this year and I think they will probably end up getting it .

What's funny to me is that some MSU fans use this same type of "logic" that Michigan fans just used in this thread when discussing Michigan's basketball team as if losing Douglass and Novak are going to somehow set us back and keep us from being better then last year, it won't. Both fanbases just refuse to come to grips with reality, it's actually quite funny at least in my mind.

They are not losing all 3 of those games, I would love to see it happen... but it's not going to happen. I don't see MSU losing to Wisky. Wisconsin will be facing an MSU team that is either going to be coming off their 5th straight win over Michigan carrying alot of momentum going into the revenge game against Wisconsin or Wisconsin will be facing a pissed off MSU team that just lost to Michigan and still remembers the sting of last years Big Ten title game loss. Bad news for Wisconsin in my mind.. I don't see OSU beating MSU in Spartan Stadium. They have not lost a home game in 2 years and I don't think Urban will be the coach to do that in Year 1 of his tenure.

The games that I actually think might be dangerous for MSU are ironcially the 1st game of the year and the last game of year Boise ST and Minnesota(Yes, Minny potential letdown game for Michigan as well) The reason I say Boise is because first and foremost they thrive in these situations, nobody knows who they really have on their roster and most people assume they are going to have a down year because of all the people they lost. Something similar happened back in 2009 with Boise when an unheralded guy by the name of Kellen Moore came into Autzen stadium up at Oregon and they put a pounding on Oregon. I still expect MSU to win this game, just that I would not be surprised if it's closer then people think. Minnesota probably seems like an odd choice, but just hear me out. MSU plays them the last game of the year at Minnesota on Senior Day, MSU struggled quite a bit with Minny last year at home and I bet Minny has that game circled on the calendar as one they felt got away and they improved quite a bit as a team by the end of the year, again not saying MSU will lose or that it's likely just that I think those 2 games im intrigued the most by looking at their schedule even moreso then OSU and Wisky believe it or not.

The reality is Sparty had a couple of good years and now it's over. If happens every 20-25 years. They will not win the B10 this year. They will not win their division this year. And, yes, losing your 3 year starting QB (who also is the best QB you've have in 25 years), your top 3 WRs and #1 TE (all multi year starters), a first team All B10 OL, the best DT in the league and a couple other significant contributors all at the same time matters. It would be a challenge for Alabama to lose all that at once and MSU doesn't have anywhere near the talent or depth as Alabama.

Will see about OSU this year... I have no doubt they will be a force again with Meyer at helm but I am not as convinced like alot of people are that they are going to take this big step forward as a team in Year 1 just because Meyer is their.

Not Maxwell.

I just can't imagine your O not taking a significant step foward with Meyer there this year. It was beyond bad last year(except against Michigan). Miller is going to be good in Meyer's spread. I have no doubt about that.

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO!

It pains me significantly to say that i think OSU is going to be a much better team this year.

Same to you. THE GAME this year should be a great game.